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Baptist, Presbyterian and Methodist Clergy Back Funding for Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz
lifenews.com ^ | December 15, 2015 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 12/15/2015 7:04:30 PM PST by Morgana

A group of liberal clergy and religious leaders are calling on Texas Governor Greg Abbot to reverse his decision to revoke taxpayer funding for the Planned Parenthood abortion business. Abbott’s administration cut taxpayer funding for the abortion company after it was caught selling the body parts of aborted babies, though Planned Parenthood is fighting in court to keep taxpayers on the dole.

“The gruesome harvesting of baby body parts by Planned Parenthood will not be allowed in Texas, and the barbaric practice must be brought to an end,” Abbott said at the time.

The signers (some listed below) of the letter are affiliated with a smaller Baptist church denomination that broke away from the ardently pro-life Southern Baptist Convention, with the Presbyterian Church USA and the United Methodist Church, both of whom have advocated for abortion. And many of the signer are affiliated with the pro-abortion Universalist Church.

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According to a news report, here’s what these breakaway Baptists had to say:

An open letter signed by 53 progressive clergy protested the exclusion of Planned Parenthood from Medicaid.

“United in our shared commitment to justice and religious freedom, we affirm the right of all women across Texas to make their own health care decisions,” said the letter organized by Just Texas, a project of the Texas Freedom Network. “Eliminating Medicaid funding for Planned Parenthood denies women and families that freedom and leaves many of our state’s most vulnerable women without access to basic health care.” “Women have a moral and legal right to decide for themselves which health care providers they will see,” said Valda Jean Combs, an associate minister at Brentwood Baptist Church in Houston and member of the Just Texas Advisory Committee. “As faith leaders in our communities, we cannot be silent when politicians interfere with that freedom and risk leaving vulnerable women without access to the basic care they need and deserve.”

Other signatories include Larry Bethune, senior pastor of University Baptist Church in Austin, and Amelia Fulbright, founding minister and executive director of Labyrinth Progressive Student Ministry, an ecumenical Christian community at the University of Texas, who also is on the Just Texas Advisory Committee.

The report indicates the Baptists who signed the letter were kicked out of the Southern Baptist Convention in 1998 and joined the more liberal Alliance of Baptists and American Baptist Churches, USA.

The fifth undercover video in the controversy over Planned Parenthood’s sale of aborted baby parts shows the Director of Research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, Melissa Farrell, advertising the Texas Planned Parenthood branch’s track record of fetal tissue sales, including its ability to deliver fully intact aborted babies.

In the video, actors posing as representatives from a human biologics company meet with Farrell at the abortion-clinic headquarters of Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast in Houston to discuss a potential partnership to harvest fetal organs.

In the video, actors posing as representatives from a human biologics company meet with Farrell at the abortion-clinic headquarters of Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast in Houston to discuss a potential partnership to harvest fetal organs.

“Where we probably have an edge over other organizations, our organization has been doing research for many many years,” explains Farrell. When researchers need a specific part from the aborted fetus, Farrell says, “We bake that into our contract, and our protocol, that we follow this, so we deviate from our standard in order to do that.”

Asked specifically if this means Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast can change abortion procedures to supply intact fetal specimens, Farrell affirms, “Some of our doctors in the past have projects and they’re collecting the specimens, so they do it in a way that they get the best specimens, so I know it can happen.”

The investigators ask Farrell how she will frame a contract in which they pay a higher price for higher quality fetal body parts, and she replies, “We can work it out in the context of–obviously, the procedure itself is more complicated,” suggesting that “without having you cover the procedural cost” and paying for the abortion, the higher specimen price could be framed as “additional time, cost, administrative burden.”

Farrell finally summarizes her affiliate’s approach to fetal tissue payments: “If we alter our process, and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, we can make it part of the budget that any dissections are this, and splitting the specimens into different shipments is this. It’s all just a matter of line items.”

Farrell also indicates to the investigators over lunch that the specimen sales from her department contribute significantly to Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast’s overall finances: “I think everyone realizes, especially because my department contributes so much to the bottom line of our organization here, you know we’re one of the largest affiliates, our Research Department is the largest in the United States. Larger than any the other affiliates’ combined.”

At one point in the video, Planned Parenthood staff show off the body of a 20-week old twin baby aborted and sold for parts.

The expose’ videos catching Planned Parenthood officials selling the body parts of aborted babies have shocked the nation.

The expose’ videos catching Planned Parenthood officials selling the body parts of aborted babies have shocked the nation. Here is a list of all eleven:

In the first video: Dr. Deborah Nucatola of Planned Parenthood commented on baby-crushing: “We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.” In the second video: Planned Parenthood’s Dr. Mary Gatter joked, “I want a Lamborghini” as she negotiated the best price for baby parts. In the third video: Holly O’Donnell, a former Stem Express employee who worked inside a Planned Parenthood clinic, detailed first-hand the unspeakable atrocities and how she fainted in horror over handling baby legs. In the fourth video: Planned Parenthood’s Dr. Savita Ginde stated, “We don’t want to do just a flat-fee (per baby) of like, $200. A per-item thing works a little better, just because we can see how much we can get out of it.” She also laughed while looking at a plate of fetal kidneys that were “good to go.” In the fifth video: Melissa Farrell of Planned Parenthood-Gulf Coast in Houston boasted of Planned Parenthood’s skill in obtaining “intact fetal cadavers” and how her “research” department “contributes so much to the bottom line of our organization here, you know we’re one of the largest affiliates, our Research Department is the largest in the United States.” In the sixth video: Holly O’Donnell described technicians taking fetal parts without patient consent: “There were times when they would just take what they wanted. And these mothers don’t know. And there’s no way they would know.” In the seventh and perhaps most disturbing video: Holly O’Donnell described the harvesting, or “procurement,” of organs from a nearly intact late-term fetus aborted at Planned Parenthood Mar Monte’s Alameda clinic in San Jose, CA. “‘You want to see something kind of cool,’” O’Donnell says her supervisor asked her. “And she just taps the heart, and it starts beating. And I’m sitting here and I’m looking at this fetus, and its heart is beating, and I don’t know what to think.” In the eighth video: StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer admits Planned Parenthood sells “a lot of” fully intact aborted babies. The ninth video: catches a Planned Parenthood medical director discussing how the abortion company sells fully intact aborted babies — including one who “just fell out” of the womb. The 10th video: catches the nation’s biggest abortion business selling specific body parts — including the heart, eyes and “gonads” of unborn babies.The video also shows the shocking ways in which Planned Parenthood officials admit that they are breaking federal law by selling aborted baby body parts for profit. Unreleased Videos: Unreleased videos from CMP show Deb Vanderhei of Planned Parenthood caught on tape talking about how Planned Parenthood abortion business affiliates may “want to increase revenue [from selling baby parts] but we can’t stop them…” Another video has a woman talking about the “financial incentives” of selling aborted baby body parts. The 11th video catches a Texas Planned Parenthood abortionist planning to sell the intact heads of aborted babies for research. Amna Dermish is caught on tape describing an illegal partial-birth abortion procedure to terminate living, late-term unborn babies which she hopes will yield intact fetal heads for brain harvesting.

Here is a list of some of the signers:

Rev. Richard Bates United Methodist Church

Rev. Sarah Bentley United Church of Christ

Rev. Dr. Larry Bethune University Baptist Church

Rev. Neil Cazares-Thomas United Church of Christ

Rev. Joe Clifford Presbyterian Church USA

Rev. Valda Jean Combs Brentwood Baptist Church

Rev. Ken Crawford Disciples of Christ

Rev. Eric Folkerth United Methodist

Rev. Charles Fredrickson Evangelical Lutheran Church of America

Rev. Tom Heger Presbyterian Church USA

Rev. Jim Rigby Presbyterian Church USA

Rev. Murray Travis Presbyterian Church USA

Rev. Steve Wilson United Church of Christ


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: abortion; carnal; churches; evil; liberal; mainline; pastors; proaborts; prolife; religiousleft; tencommandments; texas
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1 posted on 12/15/2015 7:04:30 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

The usual suspects. Wolves in sheep’s clothing.


2 posted on 12/15/2015 7:10:14 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Morgana

> United in our shared commitment to justice and religious freedom, we affirm the right of all women across Texas to make their own health care decisions,” said the letter organized by Just Texas, a project of the Texas Freedom Network. “Eliminating Medicaid funding for Planned Parenthood denies women and families

Choosing to become pregnant does not give you the right to kill others. Claiming “the right to kill others” and calling it “health care decisions” is lying.

Lying and killing. Nice job, Pastors.


3 posted on 12/15/2015 7:10:39 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Morgana

IIRC, The PCUSA has been pro-infanticide for a long time.

So that really is no surprise.

The PCA denomination is pro-life.


4 posted on 12/15/2015 7:11:00 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Morgana

Serious question as I don’t know. Are these the sorts that encouraged their flocks to sit out the elections in 2012, because the didn’t like a Mormon?

Just asking.


5 posted on 12/15/2015 7:11:02 PM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: Morgana

Bkmrk.


6 posted on 12/15/2015 7:12:08 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: Morgana

How can a minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ believe in killing babies????? Did they get their ordination papers from the internet?

May G_d have mercy on their souls.


7 posted on 12/15/2015 7:14:52 PM PST by doc1019 (Out of my mind ... back in 5)
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To: Morgana

Of course, they bury the fact that most of these congregations are small and dwindling even further into oblivion.

Liberalism all but killed the Mainline Churches, yet they carry on full speed!


8 posted on 12/15/2015 7:15:03 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: doc1019

What I wonder is who goes to churches like these? Someone here please tell me. No wait maybe I have just been pro life too long and I just don’t get it.


9 posted on 12/15/2015 7:16:25 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana
Shame on those reverends. Their title is an oxymoron.
There is NOTHING more IRreverend than abortion. It's murder and they OUGHT to know better.

I DO NOT understand why Christians, that is, non-Catholics, believe that abortion is NOT a horrible sin.
Even the Muslims do not allow abortion and they accept even the most damaged fetuses into a loving home. Why/how are THEY better at that than the non-Catholic Christians?
I DON'T get it.

10 posted on 12/15/2015 7:17:14 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: rockinqsranch
Serious question as I don’t know. Are these the sorts that encouraged their flocks to sit out the elections in 2012, because the didn’t like a Mormon?
Just asking.

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EXCELLENT question.

11 posted on 12/15/2015 7:18:44 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Morgana
What I wonder is who goes to churches like these?

Great point.

12 posted on 12/15/2015 7:18:48 PM PST by doc1019 (Out of my mind ... back in 5)
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To: rockinqsranch

I am guessing that these are all Obama voters, and most of the people in their congregations are too. The evangelicals who stayed home rather than vote for Romney are not likely to be PP supporters.


13 posted on 12/15/2015 7:22:28 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: doc1019

Jim Jones is a pretty good example of what has been done to our churches for DECADES.


14 posted on 12/15/2015 7:38:56 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: Morgana
Misleading headline. Small group... and this... "The report indicates the Baptists who signed the letter were kicked out of the Southern Baptist Convention in 1998 and joined the more liberal Alliance of Baptists and American Baptist Churches, USA. "
15 posted on 12/15/2015 7:42:41 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: cloudmountain
Even the Muslims do not allow abortion and they accept even the most damaged fetuses into a loving home.

Absolute "Religion of Peace" disinformation.
1) Islam sees a fetus as nothing but a tissue mass until the point at which they believe the soul enters the body. That's somewhere not long after the first trimester as I recall, maybe later.
2) Until the spirit has entered the body Islam has no problem whatsoever with abortion.
3) Islam approves of and in some places encourages the murder of infants born alive and deformed or found within the first few years to be mentally disabled.

For PR purposes, yes, Islam is against abortion but you have to understand their understanding of the word which is that after the spirit and body are joined, they disapprove.

16 posted on 12/15/2015 7:50:19 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin; cloudmountain
Rashputin, I think the Muslim theory and practice on abortion varies from place to place. When my friend E.L. was doing pro-life work in Nigeria, she allied with Muslims who opposed abortion and, even, contraception.

They probably aren't the majority with Islam, but their influence in certain regions is substantial. They have even successfully joined forces with African Anglicans and Catholics in order to block U.N. population control programs in Africa.

17 posted on 12/15/2015 8:08:32 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Still Catholic after all these years.)
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To: Rashputin; cloudmountain

You all not see the story I posted the other day? ISIS be killing kids with down syndrome and other disabilities. Oh and muslims women be having abortions I posted that too. In palestine the girls cross over into Israel to have abortions to avoid honor killings. Abortion hits all religions.


18 posted on 12/15/2015 8:14:45 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana
“The report indicates the Baptists who signed the letter were kicked out of the Southern Baptist Convention in 1998”

I'm proud of my dad for a lot of things, one is him helping lead that movement.

19 posted on 12/15/2015 9:04:03 PM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: Morgana
No, I didn't see that but it fits with everything I've seen and learned over the years. Abortion is a disease plague that's helping destroy Christianity with pharmaceutical abortions called "contraception" leading the way.

When people prefer possibly killing an infant to a few days of self control per month they're under a strong diabolical delusion. That sort of thing always starts with muddy word definitions (such as, No, you shall not die the death.)

In reality, it's nothing but the same sacrifice of children to Moloch that was practiced in Carthage and for the same reason, in return for better economic prospects.

JMHo

20 posted on 12/15/2015 9:10:50 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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