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Francis' Vulgar Comments on the Latin Mass
Catholic Family News ^ | 2/28/16 | John Vennari

Posted on 02/28/2016 3:37:26 PM PST by ebb tide

It appears that a children's book titled Dear Pope Francis is to be released on March 1.

Rorate Caeli obtained and posted a section of the book that is not only disturbing, but provides a snapshot into the mind of Francis concerning the ancient Mass of the Church.

This is the excerpt:

"Dear Pope Francis, Were you ever near the pries as the altar boy? Greetings from Alessio (Italy, age 9)"

"Dear Alessio, yes, I was an altar boy. And you? What part among the altar boys do you have? It's easier to do now, you know: You might know that, when I was a kid, Mass was celebrated different than today. Back then, the priest faced the altar, which was next to the wall, and not the people. Then the book with which he said the Mass, the missal, was placed on the right side of the altar. But before reading of the Gospel it always had to be moved to the left side. That was my job: to carry it from right to left. It was exhausting! The book was heavy! I picked it up with all my energy but I wasn't so strong; I picked it up once and fell down, so the priest had to help me. Some job I did! The Mass wasn't in Italian then. The priest spoke but I didn't understand anything. and neither did my friends. So for fun we'd do imitations of the priest, messing up the words a bit to make up weird sayings in Spanish. We had fun, and we really enjoyed serving Mass."

What, then, has Francis effectively taught this nine-year-old altar boy, and any youngster who reads the book?

1) The protestantized Novus Ordo is superior to the old, stodgy,"other-worldly" Tridentine Mass, where the priest faced the altar and not the people, and where the faithful allegedly could not understand what the priest said.

2) The Mass and things pertaining to the Mass can be the object of cheap amusement even by altar boys while they are serving. How contrary this is to the spirit of Catholicism.

The Gifts of Piety and Fear of the Lord, two of the Seven Gifts of the Holy Ghost, instill in us a reverential fear of God, which recognizes God's greatness and our littleness, and a deep respect for those things that pertain to God, which must be treated in a reverential manner. These Gifts do not appear to be manifest in Francis. There is also no sense of the supernatural when Francis speaks of the Mass.

Francis, the modernist Jesuit, boasts to a nine-year-old youngster, and thousands of other youngsters who will be given a copy of this book, that, "messing up the words a bit to make up weird sayings" is an acceptable practice for an altar server. What really matters, "We had fun...". The excerpt from the book reminds us of the episode - captured on video - where Francis poked fun at the little altar boy properly folding his hands in prayer. "Are your hands stuck together?" asked Francis, grabbing the boys hands and moving apart and back.

For Francis, some of the most sacred aspects of Catholic practice can be the object of sport: "We messed up the words" of the Mass, "We had fun," "Are your hands stuck together?"

Who is this vulgar little man that our contemporary Cardinals elected in 2013?

One month into his papacy, I stated publicly I would never allow Pope Francis to teach religion to my children. After almost three years of this tumultuous reign, I reconfirm that statement with greater intensity.

Francis' vulgar mockery of aspects of the Mass (which reminds me of the Novus Ordo priests of the early 1970s trying so hard to be 'cool' and 'one of the guys'), his public praise of the abortionist Emma Bonino, his guilty silence in the face of his duty to oppose Italy's same-sex Civil Union bill (that passed due to his silence), his recent Situation Ethics approach to contraception, wherein he recently indicated that use contraception may be an option as a shield against Zika infection, and his countless scandalous words and actions wherein he sounds worse than a 21st Century combination of Cardinal Bernadin and Leonardo Boff, further and further erodes his moral authority. Faithful Catholics run for cover almost every time he opens his mouth.

This is why I am afraid when Francis appears ready to get his hands on anything else Catholic that I love, for he seems to subvert all he touches.

St. Alphonse Liguori tells us in a Letter of October 24, 1774, that it is possible for a Pope to be elected who does not have the greater glory of God as his main concern, that such a Pope will not receive the help from God that he needs, and that things will go from bad to worse.

St. Alphonsus writes at the time of a Papal Conclave, "As regards the bishops, very few of them possess genuine zeal for souls ... So we have to pray to Jesus Christ that he would give us as head of the Church one possessed of more spirit and zeal for the glory of God than of learning and human prudence. He should be free of all party attachments and devoid of human respect. If, by chance, for our great misfortune, we should get a Pope that does not have the glory of God as his sole purpose, the Lord will not help him greatly and things from their present condition will go from bad to worse."

We are now in a state where we have a Pope who seems to manifest some of the worst aspects of modernist Jesuitism, does not seem to be guided by the spirit of God, and where things are going from bad to worse. The Message of Fatima tells us to "pray a great deal for the Holy Father," and likewise St. Alphonse Liguori urged Catholics to pray that the Lord remedy such a situation.

In the meantime, we continue to publicly resist the words and actions of Pope Francis that appear contrary to the Faith of all time, and promote the traditional Catholic Faith to all those in our sphere of influence.

We close by quoting the renowned Father Francisco Suarez, one of many who remind us of the need to resist: "If [the Pope] gives an order contrary to good customs, he should not be obeyed; if he attempts to do something manifestly opposed to justice and the common good, it will be licit to resist him; if he attacks by force, by force he can be repelled, with a moderation appropriate to a just defense."


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; francis; francischurch; latinmass; liturgy; mass; pope; popefrancis; tlm; traditionalmass; tridentinemass; vatican
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To: pbear8

:)


21 posted on 02/28/2016 6:38:11 PM PST by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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To: BlatherNaut
NWO plant?

Or even worse.

22 posted on 02/28/2016 6:55:54 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: timlilje
Everyone I knew (except my Dad, who never used a Missal because he knew Latin and knew the Mass) who attended the Latin Mass had the St. Joseph Missal - English on one page and Latin on the facing page.

And that was in the backwoods of Montana. Most of the people I know from that era who welcomed the vernacular Mass were the ones who still didn't know what was going on when the liturgy switched to English.
23 posted on 02/28/2016 7:17:05 PM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

The stumbling block for many a Pre-Vatican II altar boy:
Suscipiat Dominus sacrificium de manibus tuis, ad laudem et gloriam nominis sui, ad utilitatem quoque nostram, totiusque Ecclesiae suae sanctae.
(May the Lord accept the sacrifice at your hands for the praise and glory of His name, for our good and the good of all his Holy Church).
In truth, when you mastered it, it rolled fluently. If not, it sounded like a pair of dice and five dimes in your mouth.


24 posted on 02/28/2016 7:19:27 PM PST by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: SkyPilot; ebb tide

25 posted on 02/28/2016 8:20:56 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I say this as a mother who drilled her two boys on their responses for our parish’s weekly (Sunday) EF Mass:

The “Suscipiat” made me want to pluck out my own eyes and feed them to the dog for lunch. AHHHH!

But we made it through, and both boys know and understand it all now.

Regards,

PS: For some reason, the older men in our congregation almost always say the Suscipiat out loud during Mass. I think they do it in sympathy for the altar boys.


26 posted on 02/28/2016 8:24:51 PM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: grey_whiskers
LOLOL!!!! just damn,,,
27 posted on 02/28/2016 8:47:55 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: ebb tide

The “protestantized Novus Ordo”???


28 posted on 02/28/2016 9:41:42 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: namvolunteer

13 S or SH sounds in one sentence...14 if you pronounced the C in “sacrificium” like the C in English “sacrifice” (instead of like CH, in the good ol’ Italian pronunciation of Church Latin).


29 posted on 02/29/2016 5:29:34 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: boatbums

Yes. In terms of presentation, atmosphere, music, etc...The average Novus Ordo Mass is far closer to a Protestant service than a Tridentine Mass.


30 posted on 02/29/2016 8:32:35 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: ebb tide
NWO plant? Or even worse.

A case for Father Gabriele Amorth?

Certainly a dream come true for the Alta Vendita.

31 posted on 02/29/2016 8:47:49 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

And in terms of theology. If not for the rare mention of sacrifice, you wouldn’t even know it was meant to be Catholic.


32 posted on 02/29/2016 11:35:51 AM PST by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: piusv
"And in terms of theology. If not for the rare mention of sacrifice, you wouldn’t even know it was meant to be Catholic."

Absolutely true. The very concept of the Novus Ordo mass itself is a creation of anti-Catholic theology.

33 posted on 02/29/2016 11:47:33 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: silverleaf

“If he really was a Luciferian as conspiracy sites suggest, , how would his attitude and behaviors be different?”

1) He would speak openly about hating the Trinity rather than speak about loving God and God loving man as he does.

2) He would not encourage people to go to confession as he does, and would not go himself (as he does).

3) He would not put into writing his love of scripture for that would naturally encourage people to discover Christ - but that is exactly what he did.


34 posted on 02/29/2016 12:24:57 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: boatbums

Yes.


35 posted on 02/29/2016 4:03:35 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: vladimir998
Pope Francis Invokes Lucifer At Easter Vigil Mass from Now The End Begins on Vimeo.
36 posted on 02/29/2016 4:56:25 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: silverleaf

“Pope Francis Invokes Lucifer At Easter Vigil Mass from Now The End Begins on Vimeo.”

I realize Protestant anti-Catholics tend toward ignorance, but that is truly a ridiculous example of Protestant anti-Catholic stupidity. If you just read the comments you would have seen:

It is faulty translation, the Lucifer here (Morning Star) refers to Christ (cf 2 Peter 1:19).

As the Protestant translation New American Standard Bible has it:

So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the ***morning star*** arises in your hearts.

The prayer in the video is this (in part):

“May this flame be found still burning
by the Morning Star:
the one Morning Star who never sets,
Christ your Son,
who, coming back from death’s domain,
has shed his peaceful light on humanity,
and lives and reigns for ever and ever.” http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/liturgical-year/easter/easter-proclamation-exsultet.cfm

See how it says the Morning Star IS “Christ your Son”???

Morning Star in 2 Peter is really a reference back to Numbers 24:17.

And all you would have to do is read Rev 22:16:

New International Version
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

It’s the 21st Century. There’s no reason to choose ignorance when the truth about Morning Star is so easy to be found.

“Why are both Jesus and Satan referred to as the morning star?” http://www.gotquestions.org/morning-star.html


37 posted on 02/29/2016 5:57:38 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: silverleaf

In case my above comment is mistakenly taken as being specifically about YOU and not the idiot who mistranslated the video, I post the same post without that first sentence:

If you just read the comments you would have seen:

It is faulty translation, the Lucifer here (Morning Star) refers to Christ (cf 2 Peter 1:19).

As the Protestant translation New American Standard Bible has it:

So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the ***morning star*** arises in your hearts.

The prayer in the video is this (in part):

“May this flame be found still burning
by the Morning Star:
the one Morning Star who never sets,
Christ your Son,
who, coming back from death’s domain,
has shed his peaceful light on humanity,
and lives and reigns for ever and ever.” http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/liturgical-year/easter/easter-proclamation-exsultet.cfm

See how it says the Morning Star IS “Christ your Son”???

Morning Star in 2 Peter is really a reference back to Numbers 24:17.

And all you would have to do is read Rev 22:16:

New International Version
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

It’s the 21st Century. There’s no reason to choose ignorance when the truth about Morning Star is so easy to be found.

“Why are both Jesus and Satan referred to as the morning star?” http://www.gotquestions.org/morning-star.html


38 posted on 02/29/2016 5:59:42 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: ebb tide

I was an altar boy for Latin Masses and we did have a little fun with them....NEVER disrespected them, but mimicked some of the gestures and readings.....harmless and a learning experience.


39 posted on 03/01/2016 7:48:36 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!)
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