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To: vladimir998

You missed my point entirely.\\

Read again what I wrote and then read your Hebrew and Greek Scriptures.

No one changed the text. I never said or implied that the Authors knew or did not know Gods Holy Name. However, regardless. The “SOUNDING” or correct pronunciation of the word is NOT CONVEYED via the written language. Therefore being lost.

So my learned friend, please explain why my reasoning is flawed. I am sure you a fully aware that the original Scriptures were not WRITTEN IN ENGLISH. Why then is it the English version that substitute “YHWH” with “THE LORD?”

Have you ever wondered why?


138 posted on 09/14/2016 9:28:41 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Dont forget Love)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

“So my learned friend, please explain why my reasoning is flawed.”

It’s flawed because you’re (apparently) assuming the following:

1) You’re assuming Smith received no revelation because he did not agree with you. Now, don’t get me wrong. Smith was a con man and received no revelation. But I say that because of what Smith said and did whether or not he agrees with me on anything.

2) Your assumption (apparently) is that because most say “Yahweh” today that that means Smith could not have received a genuine revelation from God because he never revealed THAT pronunciation. That is an erroneous conclusion drawn from flawed reasoning. i) There’s no reason to assume a revelation from God would necessarily include a proper pronunciation of His name according to your liking. ii) There’s no evidence such revelations were accorded actual prophets - like John the Revelator, for instance. iii) If Jehovah was the common pronunciation in English - and it was - and even shows up in Bible translations decades after Smith (as it does through out the ASV OT), then there should be no surprise Smith would use the common pronunciation. iv) Mormons have their own understanding of the Sacred Name: http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Jehovah,_Jesus_Christ

“I am sure you a fully aware that the original Scriptures were not WRITTEN IN ENGLISH.”

Oh, I am very aware. I am also aware that that fact would be entirely not at play here since Smith only knew English.

“Why then is it the English version that substitute “YHWH” with “THE LORD?””

That is done simply because when Jews READ aloud the scriptures that is exactly what they do. Jews were not to say aloud the Sacred Name. If I recall correctly, even the High Priest was only permitted to say it once a year; on Yom Kippur if I am not mistaken [Yes, see it under B, 2, b, i here: http://biblehub.com/commentaries/guzik/commentaries/0316.htm ]

Christians followed suit in the NT often abbreviating the name of Jesus because it was sacred. You see Judaizers on the internet do this when they type out “G-d” rather than “God”. Here’s exactly what I’m talking about: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1443443/jewish/Why-Dont-Jews-Say-Gds-Name.htm

Some modern translations, of course, will simply say YHWH rather than “Lord”. The Jerusalem Bible does that. I literally yesterday got in the mail a reprint of Traina’s Holy Name Bible and he was the first to do it in English - in the 1950/1963.(Sadly this reprint turns out to not have gilt edges, has no page marking ribbon, and only a glued binding; oh, well).

“Have you ever wondered why?”

Nope. I’ve always known.


144 posted on 09/14/2016 10:54:32 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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