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Pope Francis used his first consistory to tentatively introduce his plan to change the Church's teaching on communion for the divorced and civilly "re-married'. He invited Cardinal Kasper -- the long-time proponent of radical change in the Church's perennial teaching -- to address his fellow cardinals At the time Marco Tosatti reported that Cardinal Kasper's addresse caused consternation among the cardinals:

Card. Ruini noted that some 85% percent of cardinals who spoke up after Kasper were against Kasper’s proposals. He opined of those who said nothing that perhaps they were simply “embarrassed”.

In the light of Pope Francis's other unprecedented decison not to respond to the cardinals' concerns about Amoris Laetitia, expressed to him in the traditional form of a dubia, it is being speculated that the Holy Father has cancelled his meeting with the college of cardinals in order to avoid discussing the dubia and his decision about it.

1 posted on 11/18/2016 8:39:10 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
I suppose he's holding his breath until he turns blue, too.

Goes to show you....even the College of Cardinals can scr** up.

2 posted on 11/18/2016 8:43:50 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ebb tide
I am not Catholic but I am finding all of this extremely fascinating. Maybe like Reagan, John Paul II left his shoes too big to be filled by anyone in the immediate future.

Has there EVER been tension of this magnitude, at this high a level of the Church, in any living memory?

3 posted on 11/18/2016 8:48:10 AM PST by Ciaphas Cain
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This pope loves the devils work.

Can’t say enough of communist memes.

The Vatican wreaks of rotting fish.

Flies buzz at his feet.

Jesus did not nor would never offer lucifer bread

, but this pope stokes levin ovens to feed the king of the dead


4 posted on 11/18/2016 8:48:10 AM PST by Eddie01 (Democrats are the Liquidate America Party)
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To: ebb tide
In wake of rejection of dubia Pope cancels meeting with cardinals

"Who'd I get rejected by now?"


5 posted on 11/18/2016 8:49:33 AM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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To: ebb tide
There was a REASON Pope Benedict ‘retired’...this is not that common, has been done I think once before...but I have NEVER believed it was because Pope Benedict couldn't do his job...

He was involved with re restructuring the Vacatian Bank, which is ‘sacred’ to a lot of Cardinals, including Cardinal Dolan...(I don't trust him either)...

I believe this was ‘planned’ by some Cardinals that knew they were going to get caught with their hands in the cookie jar and got this to happen...

This Francis the talking poop, is not a True Pope...and those of us that know our religion and have lived it all our lives know this...

6 posted on 11/18/2016 8:50:37 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: ebb tide
The issuing of Amoris laetitiae against the views of the two synods also goes against the professed respect for collegiality.
7 posted on 11/18/2016 8:52:08 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: ebb tide

Took his mitre and went home, eh?


12 posted on 11/18/2016 9:00:30 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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It looks like the four Cardinals have pushed Pope Francis into a corner,and he's trying to wriggle out.

If he fails to respond to the dubia, the Cardinals have a plan for that, too.

If anything, Cardinal Burke is the most knowledgeable person on earth when it comes to Canon Law. The Pope will not find a safe way out of the box he has out himself in.

13 posted on 11/18/2016 9:04:11 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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........ it is being speculated that the Holy Father has cancelled his meeting with the college of cardinals in order to avoid discussing the dubia and his decision about it.

I'm not sure that this is the correct interpretation.

A man of Francis' hubris doesn't take kindly to being interrogated, which is essentially what the dubia amount to. I see this as a gesture of extreme displeasure on the part of El Lider Maximo; a papal "we are not amused" moment.

He's letting his ...er.....entourage know, that heads will roll. Not the heads of the "Four Cardinals", of course. There's not much he can do to them. No, this is a shot across the bows of the other cardinals who may be sympathetic towards the revolt, or those currently straddling the fence and thinking of joining it.

19 posted on 11/18/2016 9:12:17 AM PST by marshmallow
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This Pope is causing damage to the body of Christ. Yet he has time for politics by discussing the American election and time to delve into world politics with global warming which is a political lie with the climate affected by the sun and not man. He has time to support homosexual sin and gay rights, but no time to help stop Christian genocide in the middle east. He has false compassion for the sinner who divorces and remarries and no compassion for the victims and families and children who attend mass at the same parish and church and watch as their father or mother with their new partner go to communion and wonder why the church would accept and allow such a thing! Christ told Marry Magdalene to go and sin no more and not to go back into adultery. Christ will deal with this Pope and the devil that is misleading the pontiff.


21 posted on 11/18/2016 9:17:50 AM PST by Mat_Helm
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I am certain that Cardinal Burke is sincerely and deeply pained by the thought of denouncing a Pope as a heretic.

Not being a holy man like Cardinal Burke, I relish the thought of Cardinal Bergoglio boarding a plane for Buenos Aires, never to be heard of again.


27 posted on 11/18/2016 11:02:58 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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