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"The Ruini Report": If Only It Were a Joke [Catholic Caucus]
Fatima Perspectives ^ | May 18, 2017 | Christopher A. Ferrara

Posted on 05/19/2017 4:04:34 PM PDT by ebb tide

"The Ruini Report": If Only It Were a Joke

The Anti-Fatima Apparition Gains Ground

by Christopher A. Ferrara
May 18, 2017

The findings of the long-awaited “Ruini Report” of the Ruini Commission (named after its chairman, Cardinal Camillo Ruini), concerning the validity of the so-called Marian apparitions at Medjugorje that have supposedly been going on since 1981, have now been revealed. The result of the Commission’s labors, which began during the reign of Benedict XVI, is just what one would expect in the post-conciliar epoch: a refusal to state clearly that a proposition concerning the Faith is simply true or false, right or wrong.

This ridiculous report “splits the difference” between a declaration that the apparitions alleged by the six Medjugorje “seers” are not supernatural in origin and thus a fake, and a declaration — like those pertaining to Fatima — that the apparitions are of supernatural origin and thus worthy of belief. In other words: the apparitions are both true and false, depending on which ones you examine! If only it were a joke.

Catholic News Agency provides an overview of this preposterous approach: the first seven “apparitions,” allegedly occurring between June 24 and July 3, 1981, drew “13 votes in favor of recognizing the supernatural nature of the first visions. A member voted against and an expert expressed a suspensive vote….”

What about the thousands of apparitions thereafter, which allegedly continue to this day at pre-announced times even though the “visionaries” said they would end, and which are filled with repetition, banalities and statements by “the Virgin” positively contrary to the Faith?  For example, in one apparition “the Virgin” states: “Before God all the faiths are identical.  God governs them like a king in his kingdom.”

Here the Commission adopted an utterly absurd two-step analysis that allowed it to avoid declaring the whole Medjugorje event a fake:

“On this second stage, the committee voted in two steps. Firstly, taking into account the spiritual fruits of Medjugorje but leaving aside the behaviors of the seers. On this point, 3 members and 3 experts say there are positive outcomes, 4 members and 3 experts say they are mixed, with a majority of positive effects, and the remaining 3 experts claim there are mixed positive and negative effects.

“If, in addition to the spiritual fruits, the behaviors of the seers is also taken into account, eight members and four experts believe that an opinion cannot be expressed, while two other members have voted against the supernatural nature of the phenomenon.”

So, when the analysis considers the behavior of the “visionaries,” the credibility of their supposed visions diminishes and no consensus even on “good fruits” emerges, although only two commission members are willing to state outright the obvious conclusion that the apparitions are not supernatural and thus are fakes. Yet these same “visionaries” are deemed credible respecting the first seven apparitions by 13 members of this laughable commission of hair-splitters.

In essence, the Commission (except for two members) has decided that the “visionaries” were telling the truth regarding the first seven “apparitions” but that, since then, they have been conducting the longest running fraud in the history of Marian apparitions, concerning which the Commission labors to avoid expressing the truth openly. And these six fraudsters are supposedly the chosen messengers of the Mother of God.

If only it were a joke. Well, it is a joke, but the Vatican is evidently going to take this report seriously despite the objections expressed by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which will be ignored just as surely as they were respecting Amoris Laetitia. As Pope Bergoglio remarked concerning the Commission’s “split-decision” during the return flight to Rome after his visit to Fatima: “At the end of 2013 or the beginning of 2014, I received the results from Cardinal Ruini.  The commission was made up of good theologians, bishops and cardinals.  Good, good, good people.  The Ruini report is very, very good.”

What is “very, very good” according to Pope Bergoglio is the Commission’s bogus distinction between “the first apparitions, “when [the ‘seers’] were young” and “the alleged current apparitions” in which the Virgin is depicted as “a telegraph operator who sends out a message every day at a certain time… this is not the mother of Jesus.” Indeed, it is not. Nor could it have been in 1981, for the Mother of God does not appear to people whom She would certainly foresee would perpetrate a decades-long fraud on the Church and the world in Her name.

Curiously, the same Pope Bergoglio who belittles what he views as the hairsplitting of theologians on matters as fundamental as the Real Presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist, suddenly finds merit in the hairsplitting of this absurd theological commission respecting the manifest fakery of the Medjugorje apparitions. But then Pope Bergoglio has never failed to be consistent in his inconsistency.

And so, the anti-Fatima apparition gains ground, while the Message of Fatima is reduced by the Pope himself to a prescription for social justice and peace among people of all religions or no religion at all. What an insult to the Virgin Mother of God, Whose warning to the Church and all of humanity at Fatima continues to be spurned by the blind guides of the upper hierarchy, who march triumphantly toward the edge of the abyss into which they would lead the rest of us.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: francischurch; hoax; medjugorje

1 posted on 05/19/2017 4:04:34 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
Over the last couple of months, I read everything I could about Medjugorje, and I was stunned by what I learned. (No, I have not gone there, and I don't think visits there are relevant. This only issue that matters is whether the original apparitions were legitimate. I don't doubt that 90% of the people who travel there are well intentioned and benefit from the Masses that are said there.)

The people to whom the Blessed Mother originally appeared were not “children”; most were teenagers. Not one of them has become a nun or priest, despite at least one of them, i.e., Ivan, having reported being told by Mary that he should be a priest. Every one of them now earns his/her living in a manner related to Medjugorje. Ivan travels around and, for a fee, will tell people who attend, what the Blessed Mother “tells” him when she appears to him that particular evening at 6:50pm. He is no different than the Long Island Medium, who, by the way, herself attends Catholic Mass every Sunday.

Listen, Medjugorje is a fraud. The various bishops were correct is describing it as such. This report from the Vatican is illogical. I wish the writer/atheist Christopher Hitchens were still alive because Hitch would read this report and say this, “So, the Virgin Mary really did appear to these tykes and they were telling the truth then and you believe them because you take their word for it; but you think they've been lying about everything else for the last thirty years? Um...did the Blessed Mother screw up here?”

God help us. Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us.

2 posted on 05/19/2017 5:01:36 PM PDT by utahagen (but but)
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To: ebb tide

The link provided from LifeSite video

(https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/popes-advice-to-lutheran-woman-a-clue-to-how-hell-rule-on-communion-for-the)

was VERY disturbing - ‘one Baptism = one Faith’?

Puhleeze...


3 posted on 05/19/2017 5:19:00 PM PDT by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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