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To: CptnObvious; NKP_Vet
"... to put Tradition over the Holy Scriptures is a rule of Catholic Doctrine."

This is untrue. Holy Scripture is a part of Sacred Tradition.

9 posted on 06/11/2017 12:46:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (The Church of the Living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. (1 Tim 3:15))
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"... to put Tradition over the Holy Scriptures is a rule of Catholic Doctrine." This is untrue. Holy Scripture is a part of Sacred Tradition.

OK Try Mark 6:3 "Then they scoffed, "He's just a carpenter, the son of Mary and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas, and Simon. And his sisters live right here among us." They were deeply offended and refused to believe in him."

Convince us that James, Joseph, Judas, and Simon were not his Step-Brothers through Mary and that he at least had two Step-Sisters also by Mary according to this verse.

Have at it.

13 posted on 06/11/2017 1:53:10 PM PDT by CptnObvious
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To: Mrs. Don-o
This is untrue. Holy Scripture is a part of Sacred Tradition.

Your first error in this thread.

(1) The Scriptures are from God.

From the mouth of The Lord Jesus:

"It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.' " (Mt. 4:4bcd AV; cf. Deut. 8:3).

Jesus did not exercise His position and preemptive authority; He held the authority of God's spoken words written by Moses and preserved as the ultimate Authority over Satan's authority in this world.

The words written by Apostle Paul in training his disciple Timothy:

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: . . ."(2 Tim. 3:16 AV).

Paul affirms Scripture--not tradition--as the supreme authority, for the purpose:

". . . That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works" (2 Tim. 3:17 AV).

Through such spiritually mature men these words were preserved as inspired Scripture. having authority over the men protecting and copying them.

(2) Tradition is from men.

On the other hand, the Lord Jesus spoke to the hypocritical religionists of the day, who placed their authority above that of the Scriptures thus far completed four centuries previously:

"Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? . . . Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition" (Mt. 15:3b,6c AV).

Jesus found them "falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus"--false in one thing, false in all.

(3) To place these entities on the same spiritual plane is defiling the Holiness of God and His Revealed Word:

Scripture is God's perfect Words.

Tradition is man's fallible works.

Don't confuse them by commingling them.

God does not:

Inscripturated by David, preserved by God:

"I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name" (Ps. 138:2 AV).

15 posted on 06/11/2017 2:36:34 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; CptnObvious

the problem is when push comes to shove and something has to give, in Catholicism what gives is Scripture.

Tradition trumps Scripture and that is seen as doctrines are based on tradition and then Scripture is cherry picked in an attempt to justify the tradition because Scripture does not say what the tradition states.

\It’s only by *interpreting* it that the plain words of Scripture are bent to try to make them say what supports the tradition.


19 posted on 06/11/2017 3:12:42 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Holy Scripture is a part of Sacred Tradition.

No, Sacred Tradition is subordinate to Holy Scripture.


21 posted on 06/11/2017 3:43:39 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
This is untrue. Holy Scripture is a part of Sacred Tradition.

But the issue is that Scripture is the only wholly inspired substantive source, to which all else is subject to examination by, even apostolic preaching. And and in the light of which we see that the NT church did not teach or example RC distinctives of "Sacred Tradition."

114 posted on 06/13/2017 4:19:47 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Holy Scripture is a part of Sacred Tradition.

Not quite...

Holy Scripture is a part of CATHOLIC Tradition.

125 posted on 06/13/2017 5:15:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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