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To: piusv
My brother, I have in my possession a book called "The Rhine Flows Into the Tiber": A History of Vatican II. It was written by Fr. Ralph M. Wiltgen, S.V.D. I have read it a couple of times and in the back of the book is an index of the topics and the Attendees at Vatican II. There is no mention anywhere in this book of a Bishop Karol Wojtyla. His superior, the Patriarch of Poland at the time, Cardinal Stefan Wyszynski did however attend. I fail to see how Pope John Paul II could be " Mr. Vatican II" when he never attended. He was in a communist country and no doubt did not get communist permission to come to the council. (See "Windswept House" for his position on Vatican II by Vatican insider, Malachi Martin.) He was also an auxilliary of Cardinal Wyszynski and therefore no doubt also had responsibilities given him in the absence of the Cardinal. A very prominent actor, however, was a Fr. Joseph Ratzinger. I try, with the help of God's grace to not lead others astray. In the last twenty years I have spent literally hours reading about and researching and reading the works of Pope John Paul II. I've also spent time, thanks to several donors going through photographs from L'Osservatore Romano, Time Magazine, Newsweek Magazine and others because some of the differences in the people I saw in the pictures were, for me, as familiar as I am with his face, astoundingly dissimilar to the original. Unlike with Pope Paul VI whom I could only detect one imposter for, I found seven distinctly different people being purported to being Pope John Paul II. (Even to one with a very distinct wine mark on his face.) In fact, I have three pictures dated the same year with a man old and stoop shouldered, close to 200 lbs., no noticeable neck, and a slight droop to his mouth; one about 140 lbs. standing erect, with no droop to his mouth, seemingly in good heath; another picture, the same year, a man in an oversized high chair looking very frail and ill.

I also read enough of his encyclicals and exhortations and books from his early papacy as well as his biography by Jonathan Kwitny, called "The Man of the Century" and literally studied "Windswept House" and "The Keys of This Blood" and other books by Malachi Martin so that I could almost pick out things that have been put out in his name fraudulently.

In the pedophile priest scandal, Pope John Paul II demanded the US Cardinals to come to Rome and when they did, they hid behind the head of the NCCB. And he, after Pope John Paul II had decreed to the Cardinals that they were no longer allowed to let their Bishops to simply send their priests to a shrink, or to move them from parish to parish, but rather to defrock them, and turn them over to the law for their heinous crime. Bishop Gregory, the then president of the NCCB on the Vatican steps told his pope that the American Bishops would take that under advisement when they held their meeting on pedophile priests. This actually came as no surprise since on the ocassion of Pope John Paul II's election, Michael Davies reported that the NCCB had sent their pope a one lined telegram that said in Latin: "The Bishop of Rome has no jurisdiction in this Republic". I have done my homework. If you want a quick and exciting read to give you more of the detail on how Pope John Paul II was treated by his Cardinals, read " Windswept House", and afterwards, if you have the time, read "Man of the Century" and see what REALLY happened at Assisi.

I am in the business of saving souls and not selling them down the river, especially not from the Rhine to the Tiber. By the way, Joseph Ratzinger was the primo periti for Cardinal Fringe of Germany, the head of the Rhine Bishops who took over the council.

87 posted on 06/13/2017 3:43:38 PM PDT by Trad Bishop
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To: Trad Bishop
Are you trying to tell me that the only hierarchs responsible for Vatican II are the ones who actually attended it??? You have got to be kidding me. JPII CODIFIED Vatican II in his 1983 Code of Canon Law, Sacrae Discipline Leges:

Therefore, the new Code, which is promulgated today, necessarily required the previous work of the Council; and although it was announced together with the Ecumenical Council, nevertheless it follows it chronologically, because the work undertaken in its preparation, since it had to be based upon the Council, could not begin until after completion of the latter.

and:

The instrument, which the Code is, fully corresponds to the nature of the Church, especially as it is proposed by the teaching of the Second Vatican Council in general, and in a particular way by its ecclesiological teaching. Indeed, in a certain sense, this new Code could be understood as a great effort to translate this same doctrine, that is, the conciliar ecclesiology, into canonical language. If, however, it is impossible to translate perfectly into canonical language the conciliar image of the Church, nevertheless, in this image there should always be found as far as possible its essential point of reference.

and there is more where that comes from and this doesn't even touch on his "ecumencial" Assisi prayer gatherings, kissing the book of a false diabolical religion, etc.

IMO, anyone who can assert that JPII is not a man of the Second Vatican Council is not someone I can take seriously as a "Traditional Catholic" let alone a "Traditional Bishop".

88 posted on 06/13/2017 4:19:04 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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