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1 posted on 08/28/2017 2:55:46 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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A good sermon. Thank you.


2 posted on 08/28/2017 3:45:40 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Why defend the EU?)
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This one is true twice!

Biblically, Israel is “The Woman,” and Israel receives 99.9% His wrath.
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3 posted on 08/28/2017 3:53:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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A very good sermon. Thanks.


4 posted on 08/28/2017 4:43:09 PM PDT by Wuli
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The woman spoken of in Rev is the restored Church in the last dispensation of time. The child she delivers is the gospel of Jesus Christ.

And the devil lies in wait for the woman to try to destroy her and her child.

The iron rod is symbolism for the word of God.

Rev 12
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

The Church fled into the west and out of the United States because of persecution and the sentence of death passed on the members of the Church.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The remnant of her seed are all the members of the Church since it was founded in 1830. The devil makes war with those members of Christ's Church that keep the commandments and have a testimony of Jesus Christ.

The Revelation of John is actually pretty simple, John is just describing the vision he was given of actual events that would transpire during the time leading up to the second coming of Christ and the final judgement. It doesn't require a lot of over analyzing.
5 posted on 08/29/2017 6:41:29 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: pastorbillrandles; Phinneous
The Serpent hates Israel, has always hated Israel, and will eventually seek to marshal the world’s forces to obliterate Israel. She (Israel) gave the world the Word of God, and through her came the Messiah.

Another important point about Rachel (Rachel Imenu, "our mother"):

Rachel died giving birth to Benoni on the way to Ephrath, meaning on the way toward fruition. Involving such hard labor that she died, this birth was the only one of the twelve occurring after Jacob was named Israel. Furthermore, the birthright blessing of Joseph continued through Ephraim (meaning fruitfulness, doubled), who was one of the two sons of Joseph born in Egypt.

Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah: chapter 29
Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zevulon, [Dinah], Joseph: chapter 30
Jacob prevails over the sar of Esav, is named Israel, and then meets up with Esav: chapter 32
Benoni named, Benjamin born, and Rachel's soul went out: chapter 35

Just before Benoni's conception and brief appearance, we are reminded that:

9. And God appeared to Jacob again, when he came from Padan-Aram, and blessed him:
10. And God said to him, Your name is Jacob; your name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be your name; and he called his name Israel:
11. And God said to him, I am God Almighty; be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of you, and kings shall come from your loins:

Gen 35

18. And it came to pass, as her soul was departing, for she died, that she called his name Benoni; but his father called him Benjamin:
19. And Rachel died, and was buried in the way to Ephrath, which is Beth-Lehem:
20. And Jacob set a pillar upon her grave; that is the pillar of Rachel's grave to this day:
21. And Israel journeyed, and spread his tent beyond the tower of Edar:

Rachel: ewe

eder: flock, herd. The context in which this flock first appeared is when Jacob first met Rachel:

Gen 29

1. Then Jacob went on his journey, and came to the land of the people of the east:
2. And he looked, and saw a well in the field, and, lo, there were three flocks [eder] of sheep lying by it; for from that well they watered the flocks [eder]; and a great stone was upon the well's mouth:
3. And there were all the flocks [eder] gathered [asaf]; and they rolled the stone from the well's mouth, and watered the sheep, and put the stone again upon the well's mouth in his place:
4. And Jacob said to them, My brothers, where are your from? And they said, Of Haran are we:
5. And he said to them, Know you Laban the son of Nahor? And they said, We know him:
6. And he said to them, Is he well? And they said, He is well; and, behold, Rachel his daughter comes with the sheep:
7. And he said, Behold, it is yet high day, nor is it time that the cattle should be gathered [asaf] together; water the sheep, and go and feed them:
8. And they said, We can not, until all the flocks [eder] are gathered [asaf] together, and till they roll the stone from the well's mouth; then we will water the sheep:
9. And while he still spoke with them, Rachel came with her father's sheep, for she kept them:
10. And it came to pass, when Jacob saw Rachel the daughter of Laban his mother's brother, and the sheep of Laban his mother's brother, that Jacob went near, and rolled the stone from the well's mouth, and watered the flock of Laban his mother's brother:
11. And Jacob kissed Rachel, and lifted up his voice, and wept:
12. And Jacob told Rachel that he was her father's brother, and that he was Rebekah's son; and she ran and told her father:

Verse 12 is from the viewpoint of the narrator, so not a direct quote. Jacob was Laban's nephew, but a father's brother, or a mother's brother, is an uncle, a "dod". Dod, uncle, is the same word as beloved, and is the root of the name David.

The first thing Jacob said to Rachel was that he was her beloved.

gathered, asaf:

Gen 30

22. And God remembered Rachel, and God listened to her, and opened her womb:
23. And she conceived, and bore a son; and said, God has taken away [asaf] my reproach:
24. And she called his name Joseph [yosef]; and said, The Lord shall add [yasaf] to me another son:

Asaf and yasaf are interrelated roots.

Rachel ("ewe") is the mother of all the sheep (Rachel Imenu), including the ones who traveled far beyond the Tower of Edar, especially this one:

Micah 5

1. But you, Beth-Lehem Ephratah, though you are little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall he come forth to me, he who is to be ruler in Israel; and his origin is from ancient time, from days of old:
2. Therefore he will give them up, until the time when she who labors has brought forth; then the remnant of his brothers shall return to the people of Israel:

Micah 4

8. And you, O tower of the flock, the fortress of the daughter of Zion, to you shall it come, the former dominion shall come; the kingdom of the daughter of Jerusalem:
9. And why do you cry out aloud? Is there no king in you? Has your counsellor perished that pangs have seized you like a woman in labor:
10. Be in pain, and labor to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in labor; for now shall you go out of the city, and you shall dwell in the field, and you shall go to Babylon; there shall you be rescued; there the Lord shall redeem you from the hand of your enemies:

It's all quite detailed and arranged in order.

11 Cheshvan (יא חשון) = ain chush (אין חוש), there is no chush, no perception.

Beth Lechem, bet lamed.

Mama Rochel

7 posted on 08/29/2017 11:03:48 AM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: pastorbillrandles
But Adam refused accountability, blaming his wife and the LORD who gave her.

The answers from Adam and Eve were consistent with what happened. It is speculation to say that they were trying to shift blame.

Another factor that should be considered here is Adam is a figure of Christ (Romans 5:14)and Eve is a figure of the Church (Ephesians 5:31,32). Satan deceived Eve but Adam knew he would die, (1 Timothy 2:14) Is it possible that Adam chose to die with Eve rather than live without her? Is that what Christ did for us.

Also consider 1Corinthians 15:22 "For as in Adam all die." Does that include Eve? Eve was created in Adam before they ate the fruit.
8 posted on 09/01/2017 4:15:34 PM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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