Posted on 08/31/2017 3:06:35 PM PDT by ebb tide
A high-profile Vatican adviser responded to a recent Evangelical statement affirming marriage between one man and one woman with his own statement affirming "LGBT people."
Rev. James Martin, a Catholic priest, author, and adviser to the Vatican on communications, tweeted a seven-point list of pro-homosexual affirmations in response to the Evangelicals Nashville Statement that defended marriage between a man and woman.
Martins series of tweets were picked up by The Washington Post and published as a counter-list in an August 30 article titled Seven simple ways to respond to the Nashville Statement on sexuality.
In his list affirming LGBT people, Martin makes no distinction between sin and sinner, suggesting that same-sex attracted people, no matter what they do with their sexuality, are immune from Gods judgment and the judgments of others.
Some of Martins tweets include:
Martin did not clarify if the holiness of the LGBT people he knows comes from them living virtuous lives of chastity according to the Catholic Churchs teaching on sexual morality.
Martins counter-statement comes one month after the Vatican-reviewed magazine La Civiltà Cattolica published an article accusing Evangelicals and other Christians of forming an "ecumenism of hate" to exert religious influence in the political sphere. The article was criticized for its heavy-handed treatment of Christians seeking to be faithful to the Gospel.
The Nashville Statement on biblical sexual morality was released by the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW), an evangelical coalition, on August 29.
The statement, composed of 14 affirmations and denials, includes biblical-based teachings on homosexuality and transgenderism. The statement includes:
The Evangelical coalition said a statement of biblical sexual morality was needed because Western culture has embarked upon a massive revision of what it means to be a human being.
By and large the spirit of our age no longer discerns or delights in the beauty of Gods design for human life. Many deny that God created human beings for his glory, and that his good purposes for us include our personal and physical design as male and female, the group stated.
We are persuaded that faithfulness in our generation means declaring once again the true story of the world and of our place in it particularly as male and female, it added.
Our true identity, as male and female persons, is given by God. It is not only foolish, but hopeless, to try to make ourselves what God did not create us to be, the group added.
Earlier this month, Martin dismissed Catholic teaching on homosexuality, telling the pro-homosexual organization PFLAG (Parents, Families, and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) that God made LGBTQ people who they are.
The Catholic Church teaches, however, that sexual attraction to someone of the same sex is objectively disordered since God created sexual attraction to be between a male and female for the sake of procreation.
Because of this, the Church holds that there is no such reality as a homosexual person, but only a person who struggles with what the Church calls the disorder of being attracted to someone of the same sex.
Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not a sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil; and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder, states a 1986 letter on the topic of homosexuality from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to the worlds bishops.
[S]pecial concern and pastoral attention should be directed toward those who have this condition, lest they be led to believe that the living out of this orientation in homosexual activity is a morally acceptable option. It is not, the letter adds.
Evangelical Biblical scholar Robert Gagnon criticized the Vatican this week for giving Martin a position of responsibility in the Catholic Church.
Martin is someone who has no business being in a position of responsibility in the Catholic Church because his raison d'etre appears to be the destruction of the historic Catholic (and general Christian) position on a male-female foundation for sexual ethics grounded in Scripture (including Jesus' teaching on sexual ethics), he posted on Facebook.
Having people like Martin in authority (whether in a Catholic context or a Protestant one) is like hiring as the head of a hospital surgical team an extreme "Christian Science" practitioner who does not believe in surgery; only in the case of Christian faith the malpractice is worse since it has a moral component with eternal ramifications, he added.
Just another case of people that don’t play the game are making the rules.
rwood
Well if you arent leaving them over this crapola ya never will.
We are the church but we fight against the bible.
That is gonna work out well for them.
Am I correct in suspecting this Martin guy is a Jesuit?
You are right; all of the Apostles were Torah Observant Jews. Their Master taught that till the end of time the Torah was to be strictly observed right down to the last detail: Matthew ch. 5. Romans 6 has been twisted and misunderstood. The entire chapter is an exhortation to stop all sin. And Sin is defined as failure to observe and do the Torah. When it says “we are not under the Law, It means that we are not under the Condemnation of the Law. But it never meant that anyone could whatever they want to do. The Torah is Perfect, and eternal. Return to Torah and live. All of its ways are pleasant and it is filled with every good thing.
Let’s take a poll on how many Catholics do not believe that the Reverend James Martin, SJ is a homosexual. And how about that guy who lives in a hotel room in the Vatican? Based upon what he has been saying and what actions he has, and has not been taking, I certainly have my suspicions.
That evangelical message is a no-brainer. Anything else is civilizational suicide.
Yes the gates of Hell have been released. May God help us all! The time of the great Tribulation is upon us.
If the pope were Catholic heretics like this sodomite priest would still be in the closet instead of blabbing his filthy vile as one of the pope’s top advisors in the Vatican.
Allowing straight priests to marry will do nothing to stop the sex abuse in the church. The vast majority of the cases involve sodomite priests molesting young teenage boys. The only way to deal with it is to kick their ass out of the priesthood if they’re found guilty of molestation. By the way this happens in all faiths. And most all the cases are predator sodomites, not straight men molesting females.
The Bible doesn’t sound too positive towards sodomites
"Catholic is anything I say it is." The Pope
Excellent!
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