Posted on 10/23/2017 8:31:56 AM PDT by Salvation
Monsignor Pope Ping!
One more proof against the “Earth is no more than 10,000 years old” notion.
At some point people should consider:
- either practically everything we honestly observe & deduce is wrong, or
- the one vaguely-established notion requiring the former is itself wrong.
The sunlight we see is only about 8 minutes old.
Be precise, please.
Reading comprehension.
That light took 8 minutes to get from sun to us.
It likely took 100,000 years to get _out_ of the sun.
My last astronomy class, granted... about 25 years ago, said it was on average 1 million years before a photon at the core of the Sun made its “random walk” to the surface.
Each second the Sun converts 600 million metric tons of hydrogen into 596 million metric tons of helium, releasing 4 million metric tons of energy.
In the inner Sun the energy is mostly transported by radiation, with a photon being emitted and absorbed many times on the journey to the surface. Nearer the surface the primary energy transport method becomes convection.
“The sunlight we see is only about 8 minutes old.”
Agree, but...the photons that comprise the sunlight take about 50,000 years to escape the sun, and then travel those 8 minutes.
Real science keeps me in awe of the Creator. I find it sad that the universe of Young Earth Creationism, which is required dogma in some churches, has the world as little more than a super-sized Disneyland prop and God is shown as doing illusions like it is all a magic show.
As I approach 50 years (WTF?), I finally grasp what a century is.
And by extrapolation, what 10,000 years is (one hundred 100-year lifespans back-to-back) ... and it really isn’t much, certainly not big enough for the visible universe to fit in.
But cow farts are causing Global Warming
“Does anybody really know what time it is? Only God, only God. Time is very mysterious. It seems that the more we think we know, the less we really do.”
That last sentence from the post is about the only thing that is any where near exact. The rest is theoretical physics and at best conjecture or postulation. But really, who cares and why should we?
Focus on the singular fact that God (the “I am that I am”, not some one else like a spaghetti monster etc) is and you are His creation, and therefore ought to pay attention to the details of His revelation for you. Find out what that is in the scriptures, then follow the instructions therein.
BTW, there is only one message in the entirety of the Holy Scriptures-that God saves by grace- accept the free gift of HIs salvation by faith in the singular act of sacrifice by Him on the cross.
All else is distraction. Are you distracted?
Well there you go. People could spend all the time in the world contemplating that mystery, and yet not spend even a moment thinking on it.
It seems to me, then, that the secret of timelessness (eternity) is not having any time pass. In this world we peer inside that phenomenon whenever we are involved in what we love doing.
It's as if no time passed. For example, a man has a life's dream of starting a certain business. Once he's able to directly 'work' at it, he could go for 14, 18, even 20 hours a day for the love he has toward realizing his dream. He'll even forget to eat.
Contrast that with some dead-end job. It's slavery. Every minute is more like an hour. Tick tock, ugh, when will it end.
When Jacob served seven years for Rachel, they seemed but a few days in his eyes, for the love he had toward her.
Meaning, it's not any work at all if it is love.
There's not even any time involved if it is love.
Eternity = love, with people doing what they love. Not a good retirement plan to love evil.
Simple meaning.
The Torah of the Messiah is love, which is the secret to eternal life.
“One more proof against the Earth is no more than 10,000 years old notion.”
You say that as if those who believe in a young earth haven’t considered the issue, when they have written a fair amount about it.
https://creation.com/how-can-distant-starlight-reach-us-in-just-6000-years
https://creation.com/the-young-faint-sun-paradox-and-the-age-of-the-solar-system
https://creation.com/search?q=light+years
But then, as a Catholic priest, we already knew anyway.
If we really wanted to get picky, and equated the “age” of the light to when the photons were created, then the “light” (bunch of photons) we see from the sunlight is even older than 100,000 years + 8+ minutes suggested by the article.
Can “time” and the omnipresence of G-d through all time be expressed without such nonsensical use of science? Yes.
Starlight and Time by Russell Humphreys.
God is outside of Time. Humans have no choice but to live in Time. For God there is no change. Humans cannot escape the continuum of cause and effect.
Time is eternal but life is short.
the sun was created fully formed and functioning, just as adam and eve were created as fully functioning adults, from a YEC standpoint....no need to use man-made faulty methods to date the time it takes photons to reach the surface....since these methods rely on atheistic uniformatism presuppositions.
excellent book, sums up the issue and shows how YEC works well with it....bet you dollars to donuts, not one of these folks on here, other than maybe you and me, have read it, or could refute it....
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.