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1 posted on 01/27/2018 6:30:24 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
Rev: 19-21: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
2 posted on 01/27/2018 6:35:18 PM PST by Fungi
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To: marshmallow

Why should the German bishops care, given their eagerness to toss out the moral, marital, sexual and sacramental teachings of the Church?


3 posted on 01/27/2018 6:38:35 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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The New American Bible, revised edition, is the basis for the Lectionary used at English-language Masses in the United States; the petition from the Lord's Prayer in Matthew and Luke is translated as: "do not subject us to the final test."

The "final test"? How did they come up with that?

Death, judgement, Heaven and Hell. Nobody gets a free pass.

4 posted on 01/27/2018 6:44:19 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: marshmallow

This alternate translation is not horrible. In many cases, those who want the Bible rewritten have no case. In this verse, their translation seems as good as the more familiar version, in terms of the literal word-by-word meaning.

I would have to study the subtleties to understand the original context and meaning of the phrase, as opposed to the more clear meanings of the words. I’m not saying they are right, but they are far less obviously wrong than usual, and they may be correct.


5 posted on 01/27/2018 6:48:17 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: marshmallow

The rest of the sentence is “but deliver us from evil” so why would anything need to be changed?


6 posted on 01/27/2018 6:48:22 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: marshmallow
Why I Oppose Changing the English Translation of the Our Father
9 posted on 01/27/2018 7:19:09 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: marshmallow
Pope Francis: The Our Father "Induces Temptation"

Christ's instruction should be simple enough to understand. When we say, "lead us not into temptation," we're simply asking God to help us choose right from wrong, good from bad, God from Satan. It is God, our leader, who leads this enterprise, therefore we ask him to "lead us" thus. A seven-year-old CCD student can understand this perfectly, yet the leader of the world's Catholics can't seem to get it!

10 posted on 01/27/2018 7:30:14 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: marshmallow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdXFIYug9HE

The Lord’s Prayer in Aramaic, was likely fairly close to how Jesus taught it.


23 posted on 01/28/2018 6:34:47 PM PST by onedoug
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