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To: Jan_Sobieski

I believe that you have forgotten that the Church came before the Bible.


15 posted on 06/16/2018 12:34:31 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Not true. From Genesis all the way to the Epistles, the Books of the Bible preceded the Roman Church and the first Roman Pontiff.


17 posted on 06/16/2018 12:37:18 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Salvation; Jan_Sobieski
I believe that you have forgotten that the Church came before the Bible.

Irrelevant.

SCRIPTURE preceded your church.

Compiling all Scripture into one handy compendium is not great intellectual feat. It was going to happen some day by someone for the sake of convenience.

Taking credit for it is a power grab, plain and simple.

21 posted on 06/16/2018 6:54:22 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Salvation
I believe that you have forgotten that the Church came before the Bible.

Let me challenge you to think about this assertion.

Consider: The Bible is merely a record of history. The Bible is not the history, it a recording of that history. When things occurred and when they were written are two different things.
Consider: The events of the OT and writing of the Torah existed before the church, i.e., before Pentecost which is when the church was born.
Consider: The gospels are recording of events, history if you will, of the time "before" Pentecost. Another way of saying this is that the gospels are recording of events, history if you will, of the time "before" the advent of the church.
Conclusion: The testimony/events of the OT and the testimony/events of the gospels occurred/existed before Pentecost, i.e., before Pentecost the church.

Again, "when" books of the Bible were written is not when the testimonies/events in those books occurred.

The church did not exist when the Torah was written. It's generally agreed that the gospels were written before 70-AD, so to say that the church preceded the "writing" of the gospels would be true. However, if we were to assert that the church preceded the testimony/events recorded in the gospels, that would be false.

27 posted on 06/16/2018 9:03:02 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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