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Is the Koran a Literary Masterpiece?
Crisis Magazine ^ | August 10, 2018 | William Kilpatrick

Posted on 08/10/2018 9:59:31 AM PDT by ebb tide

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Countering Muslim Claims, Episode 2: The Literary Miracle of the Quran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2XVbpIfEkA


21 posted on 08/10/2018 11:14:23 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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Acts17Apologetics

Published on Aug 28, 2017

Muslims boast that the Quran is a literary masterpiece, that its eloquence is unsurpassed and unmatchable. Such claims imply that the Quran expresses its contents and themes in the clearest manner, and that it contains no grammatical ambiguities. In fact, Muslims will argue that the Quran is considered the standard for Arabic grammar. Moreover, this claim suggests that whenever the Quran makes a point it will allow the reader to understand the issue being addressed with an unmatched clarity. This episode will expose the fallacy of the “Argument from Literary Excellence.”

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22 posted on 08/10/2018 11:16:05 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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The Koran/Islam was created absolutely in order to establish Muhammad’s political power and status as a leader....his efforts to establish himself and his ideology were rejected so he had to ‘copy’/counterfeit whatever ways and means available he saw were working at the time. ...

In THAT era/time Arabs/pagans were divided tribes, each tribe ruled itself and they were looked upon as uncivilized barbarians by their neighbors..... with the ongoing struggles between the Byzantine empire and the Persian empire often drifting over into the Arabian peninsula they could not defend/or stay away from those battles.

So short end of it he He marries a Christian (Khadijah) who told him there will come ‘a new prophet’ to continue the teachings of Christianity...he simply took advantage of the situation. He noticed how powerful the Christian faith was., how devoted it’s followers and knew he could use it in a way to unite his people and become their leader and carve out his own empire.....but he needed to be “spiritulized’ to gain their trust that the pagan God they worshipped (Allah) had appointed him as the prophet of the hour.

So thus you have him copy moses trip to the mountain....’seeing’ the unseen....and all the other gobbly goop he then proclaims to his followers.and appoints those to to write for him, (Since he was illiterate)...passages he twisted and bent from the bible and other litterary works of that time.

Presto! Islam was born..and the new Prophet mohammed.


23 posted on 08/10/2018 11:17:03 AM PDT by caww
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In the Fiction category?


24 posted on 08/10/2018 11:23:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I tried reading that thing after 9/11. The most turgid, mish mash of muddled, vitriolic , obscene garbage I've ever encountered. Had to stop a little less then half way through it. On par with that other literary opus was “Mien Kampf’’. I tried reading that. Holy Smokes, that thing literally gave me a head ache. After about four chapters I had to put it down. Of all the over 400,000 words in Mien Kampf , the two Hitler got right were his name.
25 posted on 08/10/2018 11:27:02 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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It’s right down there with Mein Kampf.


26 posted on 08/10/2018 11:42:29 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Is the author ridiculously verbose here? He is usually such a good writer.


27 posted on 08/10/2018 11:42:57 AM PDT by amihow
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No. It doesn’t read well at all.


28 posted on 08/10/2018 12:32:34 PM PDT by ealgeone
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If God wrote the Koran, why does he display so much defensiveness?

By contrast, the God of the Bible issues a challenge but it is NOT defensively about who composed text better but that God would PROVE He is God by foretelling the people things that were yet to happen and when the events DID happen as God said they would, then they could know God was the only, true God. For example:

    But if any prophet dares to speak a message in My name that I have not commanded him to speak, or to speak in the name of other gods, that prophet must be put to death. You may ask in your heart, “How can we recognize a message that the LORD has not spoken?” When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD and the message does not come to pass or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22)

29 posted on 08/10/2018 12:37:12 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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It’s bad writing. Obscure. Disconnected. Contradictory.


31 posted on 08/10/2018 12:39:34 PM PDT by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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I consider the Koran and Mein Kampf to be the same book by different authors.

They have the same basic themes;

1. Kill all the Jews

2. Destroy all competing religions (Nazism aspired to be a state religion)

3. World conquest

4. One leader


32 posted on 08/10/2018 1:40:02 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: ebb tide

Also read the Hadith.


33 posted on 08/10/2018 1:42:18 PM PDT by mbarker12474
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Actually, it’s a source of the paper to use to clean up after creating a colonic masterpiece! A tad stiff butt better than nothing.


34 posted on 08/10/2018 2:03:17 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Why are damn near ALL the SEX FIENDS Democrats?)
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Nope.


35 posted on 08/10/2018 2:31:22 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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