Posted on 09/11/2018 11:53:07 AM PDT by amessenger4god
And from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and freed us from our sins by his blood, and made us to be a kingdom, priests serving his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen. Look! He is coming with the clouds...(Rev. 1:5-7, NRSV).
He [the Father] also raised us up with him [Jesus] and seated us with him in the heavens in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages He might display the immeasurable riches of His grace through His kindness to us in Christ Jesus" (Eph. 2:6-7, CSB).
Paul comes right out and says that Christ will raise us up and make us sit with Him in the heavenly places. How do you allegorize this away? How do you make this mean something different? If this is not being fulfilled right here in Revelation 4, then by all meansplease indulge me and show me where it is fulfilled" ("The Gang's All Here," article #5, 2015, emphasis his).
Your people will volunteer freely in the day of Your power; In holy array, from the womb of the dawn, Your youth are to You as the dew" (NASB).
With you is authority in the day of your might, with the splendor of the holy ones. From the womb, before the morning, I begat you" (The Lexham English Septuaguint).
David M. Hay correctly notes that the last phrase of 110:3 is 'virtually unintelligible.' The MT reads 'from the womb of the dawn, your youth [yalduteyka] are to you as dew'...leading to a variety of strained and unlikely interpretations since these words make virtually no sense. Booj describes the phrase as 'especially problematic and indeed...meaningless.' He concludes that 'some deformation must have crept in.' Although a canon of textual criticism is that the harder reading is to be preferred, there is a difference between a harder reading and an incoherent, impossible one. For this reason, Sigmund Mowinckel and other scholars prefer the LXX, which reads, 'from the womb of the dawn, I have begotten you,' a translation based on the same Hebrew consonants but with different vowel pointings [yelidtika]. Additionally, Bentzen has suggested that the corruption of the MT resulted from deliberate scribal efforts to obfuscate the meaning and its plain allusion to Ps. 2:7. Since the LXX reading is preferable, it leads to a strongly messianic interpretation, describing in Hay's words, 'the birth of a divine child' as King" (Messianic Hope, pg. 174-175, bolded emphasis mine).
In holy splendor, out of the womb, towards the dawn go forth! Like dew, I have begotten you" ("Critical Notes: A Royal Performance" from Journal of Biblical Literature, vol. 117.1, year: 1998, pg. 96).
Your people will offer themselves freely on the day of your power dressed in holy splendor/garments; from the womb [and] before the dawn, like [the] dew I have begotten you."
The LORD sends forth from Zion your mighty scepter. Rule in the midst of your enemies!...[t]he LORD has sworn and will not change his mind, 'You are a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek" (Psalm 110:2, 4, ESV).
Bkmk
Many scholars would have collectively agreed that the verb was nonsense, an error, a corruption or what have you. Maybe even suggesting that the scribes didn't want the "real message" to get out because the scribes were Jews with an agenda.
Then the experts would have proceeded to "solve" the mystery via their own reasoning.
It's like that opening quote at the head of chapter 1 of the Late Great Planet Earth (first published in 1970), ostensibly alluding to unbelieving "other guys":
We believe whatever we want to believe. Demosthenes, 348 B.C.
By the time Google appeared on the scene, everyone would have been committed to their own understanding, ignoring or mocking anyone who suggested that the meaning is "google it", to search.
"Oh come don't be ridiculous, everyone knows that Google didn't exist when that was written.."
Ah but at the time it needed to be read and understood, and the wheat separated from the chaff, another thing entirely.
later
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