Or maybe they are all cut from the same cloth...some may be more on the edge of the cloth, but all from the same cloth.
Believe it or not, I a sympathetic to many of the arguments that traddies make.
What always turns me off is the holier than thou attitude that many of them have.
JPII and Benedict were/are holy men, but they were not perfect as Popes. We may not fully understand how they decided to handle internal corruption, which it is now clear they were aware of.