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Putin says Russian Orthodoxy is 'Closer to Islam Than Catholicism' (Flashback)
RISU Religion ^ | 17th December 2010

Posted on 11/24/2018 11:41:01 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

During his conversation with the Russian people today, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin cited with approval the conclusion of “certain theoreticians who say that Orthodox Christianity is much closer to Islam than Catholicism is,” something that he suggests should be the basis for restoring national concord.

In his responses to questions, Putin stressed that “Caucasians must not be afraid to live in Moscow or Russians to live in the North Caucasus.” Instead, he continued, “all citizens of Russia of whatever faith or nationality must recognize that we have a single common Motherland."

The simplification of Huntington’s ideas in the intervening years has led many in both Russia and the West to ignore the distinction between Eastern and Western Christendom.

But as Putin suggests, there are major differences, perhaps the greatest of which is the caesaro-papist tradition of Orthodoxy and the absence of that tradition in Western Christendom. And that means the two Christian traditions are in a very different position with regard to Islam, which like Orthodoxy but unlike Catholicism calls for a unity of state and religious power.

“From the very beginning,” the Russian leader said, “Russia was built up as a multi-national and multi-confessional state.” And after saying that “the state exists to serve the interests of the majority,” he added, “you know, we have Eastern Christianity and certain theoreticians say that it is much closer to Islam than Catholicism is.”

Ever since Samuel Huntington’s “Clash of Civilizations” article and book appeared, many commentators and political leaders have talked about the clash between Christianity as a whole and Islam, even though the late Harvard scholar did distinguish between Eastern or Orthodox Christianity and Western Christianity which includes Catholicism and Protestantism.

(Excerpt) Read more at risu.org.ua ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Islam; Orthodox Christian
KEYWORDS: christian; islam; orthodox; putin; rop; russia; russianorthodox; waronterror
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1 posted on 11/24/2018 11:41:01 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

If Pres. Putin really believes that his church is AT ALL close to Islam, he either doesn’t understand Christianity or else he is totally ignorant of just how evil Islam is...
perhaps he could have a staff aide summarize the Koran and all its vicious anti-Christian, anti-Jewish passages for him.. or else, he could just pick up a good history book about how Islamics have already conquered 56 countries ....and yes, they’re working at Mother Russia, too


2 posted on 11/24/2018 11:51:15 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Well, he's no theologian. In this case, he's exactly and precisely wrong.

With its glorious and continual invocation of the Trinity, with its vast appreciation of the Incarnation of Christ, with its rich sacramental theology, with its omnipresent veneration of icons, relics, sacramentals, shrines, with its love of the All-Pure and Ever-Virgin Theotokos, Mother of God --- it is absolutely incompatible with Islam, theologically, in every way.

Of course Putin sees it all through the eyes of Machiavellian maneuvers. If Russia was full of "Friends' Meeting Houses", he'd say the Quran was Quaker.

3 posted on 11/24/2018 11:51:43 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Blessed be God in His angels and in His saints.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Recall all the Putin puffers calling him a Christian.....


4 posted on 11/24/2018 11:54:19 AM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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To: faithhopecharity

In some practical applications of the religions aspects, perhaps, but when comparing core tenets, the two faiths couldn’t be further apart.


5 posted on 11/24/2018 12:09:26 PM PST by semaj (We are the People)
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To: semaj

In mathematics when you check your answer, the first thing you do is simply look at your answer and see if the number makes sense compared to your input. If you multiply 3 x 8 and your answer is 985, you don’t need to know the answer is 24 to know that you’re solution is simply nonsense. The same goes with both those two religions. Both of them are nearly the exact opposite of the life and example set by Jesus. One chops off your head, the other is a medieval monarchy and a massive wealthy international organization that protects evil people who give it the little boys right up the wazoo.


6 posted on 11/24/2018 12:17:47 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: faithhopecharity
If Pres. Putin really believes that his church is AT ALL close to Islam, he either doesn’t understand Christianity or else he is totally ignorant of just how evil Islam is... perhaps he could have a staff aide summarize the Koran and all its vicious anti-Christian, anti-Jewish passages for him.. or else, he could just pick up a good history book about how Islamics have already conquered 56 countries ....and yes, they’re working at Mother Russia, too

I think you are looking to deeply at his comments. He is trying to stop his his subjects from murdering each other in their sleep.

7 posted on 11/24/2018 12:25:23 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Putin cites this similarity, and no others...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesaropapism

The very political form that built Western Civilization, and all civilizations before it.

He is decrying modern, secular, Western government.

And such governance seems to be in the waning decades.


8 posted on 11/24/2018 12:31:14 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: higgmeister

Understood. But history and world events demonstrate that no amount of talk can stop moslem attacks or murders. Ok to try talking but keep awake and keep your powder dry.


9 posted on 11/24/2018 12:32:40 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Putin is a proud, foolish, tool. His hubris will result in his demise (and the demise of Russia)


10 posted on 11/24/2018 12:45:00 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: faithhopecharity
Understood. But history and world events demonstrate that no amount of talk can stop moslem attacks or murders. Ok to try talking but keep awake and keep your powder dry.

President Putin has a better history of standing up against Islam than we do.

11 posted on 11/24/2018 12:52:05 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister

Absolutely correct.


12 posted on 11/24/2018 1:09:11 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: higgmeister

Absolutely correct. Our Nazi- infested Snske dept has been enabling islamics and their terrorist attacks for years, vastly expanded under the Obama regime - it’s disgusting - and extremely dangerous especially with O’s funding/ protecting/ enabling his bff Iranian crazy dictators to get nuclear icbm’s to destroy us with


13 posted on 11/24/2018 1:11:59 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: DesertRhino

When Russian Christians start demanding that Muslims convert or die and make their women wear burkhas, then I’m willing to reconsider Putin’s idea. Until then it is silly.


14 posted on 11/24/2018 1:28:06 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: faithhopecharity; higgmeister
Absolutely correct. Our Nazi- infested Snske dept has been enabling islamics and their terrorist attacks for years, vastly expanded under the Obama regime - it’s disgusting - and extremely dangerous especially with O’s funding/ protecting/ enabling his bff Iranian crazy dictators to get nuclear icbm’s to destroy us with

Please stop making a false distinction between Obama and Putin especially as it pertains to the above. They are both equally bad in these regards.

15 posted on 11/24/2018 1:34:45 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Mariner

Putin hates the West not because he is Christian or Muslim but because of his Soviet loyalties.


16 posted on 11/24/2018 1:35:59 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: faithhopecharity

The State Department is full of islamists, communists, queers and other sexual perverted freaks with a hate America agenda. It is the Swamp of the Swamp.


17 posted on 11/24/2018 1:41:47 PM PST by TADSLOS (Six out of seven dwarfs arenÂ’t happy.)
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To: ModelBreaker; higgmeister; faithhopecharity

18 posted on 11/24/2018 1:43:19 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“Putin hates the West not because he is Christian or Muslim but because of his Soviet loyalties.”

I don’t see what that has to do with the article you posted, nor my comment about it.

Do you?

Or did you just have to get that off your chest?

Again.


19 posted on 11/24/2018 2:07:27 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
🙄 No point in trying to engage with you on this topic or having a thoughtful discussion. My apologies.
20 posted on 11/24/2018 2:13:07 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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