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To: dartuser
G1325

δίδωμι

didōmi

did'-o-mee

A prolonged form of a primary verb (which is used as an alternate in most of the tenses); to give (used in a very wide application, properly or by implication, literally or figuratively; greatly modified by the connection): - adventure, bestow, bring forth, commit, deliver (up), give, grant, hinder, make, minister, number, offer, have power, put, receive, set, shew, smite (+ with the hand), strike (+ with the palm of the hand), suffer, take, utter, yield.

This is what the word "give" means. "Bestowing", committing, delivering, granting, have power, putting, ect the Holy Spirit must be asked for. "Baptize" just means immersed. If you don't "get it" by now, you aren't able to read the Bible.

75 posted on 08/07/2019 11:17:57 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles
I gotta say chuckles ... I don't understand why you cannot at least attempt to rationally defend your position. I specifically asked you if the word baptizo was in the text ... and you come back with "no, but didomai is and that's the same thing."

it is not ... if I "give" you a dollar ... you are not "immersed" in it ...

Anyway ... you keep telling me that I must be blind for not seeing it ... I keep telling you that you are blind in that you cannot interpret or even read the text honestly. For you see, you do not interpret the Bible with any solid methodology which seeks to understand what is written ... you seek to shoehorn your personal experience of tongues, miracles, etc. into the text of scripture placing your experience as the judge of the Bible. You have, at a minimum, placed experience on equal setting with the text of scripture ... as a RC puts tradition on equal setting with scripture.

If you continue down this path, eventually it will not matter to you what the Bible says ... it will be the experience you have that will dictate your beliefs.

So I think we're done here ... I doubt this is edifying to those who are following in the background.

77 posted on 08/07/2019 12:41:06 PM PDT by dartuser
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