Posted on 09/10/2019 3:17:23 PM PDT by ebb tide
Francis is to St Peter as Yosemite Sam is to Clint Eastwood.
Pope, you’re a liberal commie nut job.
Get the plank out of your eye.
Thanks - hadnt seen that one.
Im going to take this opportunity to warn about gay Priests and Bishops.
I am just SO GLAD that I have left this church. This guy is THE WORST. I’m not saying I left because of him, but every time he opens his mouth, I’m glad I’m no longer under his purview.
I am trying to be supportive of my Catholic friends.
Very soon, some will have to make hard decisions.
It is coming later to nearly all denominations.
Options coming to all denominations in the next 10 years.
1) Accept the leadership you are given and be quiet.
2) Take your family and $$$ and look elsewhere knowing it will collapse each denomination under the financial burden of running it.
3) Start something new without the IRS Tax Exempt and expensive building.
Portugal is already being crushed by the financial demands of maintaining their church buildings.
It is going to get much worse.
In Churchtalk it means a type of question that can be answered “Yes” or “No” to remove all ambiguities or “doubts” (dubia) about a teaching. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith usually answers these. The fact that Pope Francis has neither answered nor permitted the CDF to give an official answer, is really dereliction of duty on his part. Answering doctrinal questions is his JOB.
Like most liberals, the man is an ego maniac with an inferiority complex.
Below is dubium #5, as an example of the confusion. It’s obviously not a yes or no question, but a sort of trick question. If the answer is yes, the pope is wrong, and if it’s no, St. John Paul is wrong.
Obviously these are not good faith questions! Yet they do force rightful attention on the conflicts posed by Amoris, which some say does warrant clarification from CDF, although not in the dubium format.
“After Amoris Laetitia (303) does one still need to regard as valid the teaching of St. John Paul IIs encyclical Veritatis Splendor, 56, based on sacred Scripture and on the Tradition of the Church, that excludes a creative interpretation of the role of conscience and that emphasizes that conscience can never be authorized to legitimate exceptions to absolute moral norms that prohibit intrinsically evil acts by virtue of their object?”
I disagree with you that these are not good faith questions. I had no problem answering them "No, yes, yes, yes, yes" in the order given.
If they demonstrate that the Pope was wrong in the way he formulated some of his statements in Amoris, he ought to gratefully accept this correction and make sure his doctrines do not flatly contradict those of his sainted predecessors.
That's part of the "One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic" thing.
Ah! That would make his own the “snobbish ideology detached from doctrine”! Sadly, he stands on ceremony but without dignity.
Excellent summation! Clear, concise, and hits the high points.
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