Posted on 12/12/2019 8:59:30 AM PST by ebb tide
If you thought Spygate and the Coup were stunning, wait until you see the succession struggle for the next Pope
Ping
The supposedly God directed College of Cardinals elected this man to direct Roman Catholicism. He is directing that religion into a completely different posture than Historically aligned. Did God make a mistake with the College of Cardinals ... or is the whole process not a God directed process?
False statement. Doesn’t deserve a response.
This druid pope is a sure sign of the approaching apocalypse...
...prepare your souls.
The supposedly God directed College of Cardinals elected this man to direct Roman Catholicism. He is directing that religion into a completely different posture than Historically aligned. Did God make a mistake with the College of Cardinals ... or is the whole process not a God directed process?
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As a lapsed-Catholic, I think you actually have a very fair question: One that cannot easily be dismissed. In fact, it’s the main reason I’m no longer a practicing Catholic. Namely, because there is no rational and satisfactory answer if the God truly directs the Magisterium.
LOL ... cat has ebb’s tongue again.
You can understand why Ebb avoids the question.
While the Cardinals certainly pray for God's guidance, there is no guarantee in Catholic theology that they hear it or respond to it, so your premise is a false one.
LOL
The College of Cardinals is supposed to pray for the guidance of the Holy Spirit when electing a pope. But God only directs them if that's what they want. There are always going to be bad apples (statistical probability) who place their own agenda above God and vote the way they want to.
Also, it appears from what we've heard that the cardinals didn't do due diligence re Francis. In this day and age of the internet, you would think it would be easy as pie to check on him to see what kind of bishop he was. Apparently they were too lazy, and just believed what they were told about him by those trying to orchestrate his election.
Why do you think he and Xi are such butt buddies:-)
The better question to ask is, was it a legitimate conclave? If Pope Benedict XVI was forced to resign, then the resignation was not valid and he is still the true Pope (which is what I believe). If Benedict is still the true Pope, then Bergolio is nothing but a usurper, and anything he has to say is null and void. If he got in by subterfuge, then why should anyone be surprised at his anti-Christian rants? He’s a tool of the Father of Lies.
God's permissive will is another story. God could permit Jorge Bergoglio, just as He could permit a lamentable marriage, just as He could choose and permit Judas, though He does not force anybody to sin.
"Jesus replied to them, 'Didn't I choose you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil.'"(John 6:70)
Everyone is exposed to temptation, whether from their own weakness, or base, worldly motives, or from the snares of the devil. Everyone --- a pope-elect, a wedded spouse, a close companion and Apostle of Christ like Judas--- could choose good or evil.
In exactly the same sense, "the world, the flesh and the devil" influenced Peter, James and John to be unable to pray with Jesus for even one hour at His time of crisis; influenced Judas to betray Jesus; influenced Peter to deny Him three times; influenced all the rest (except John) to abandon Him to His enemies in sheer cowardice and fear.
Same Church --- still His Church, now, as then: and we call this failure of even those chosen by Christ, the "Mysterium Iniquitatis"--the Mystery of Iniquity.
Yet the multiple failures of the Apostles did not mean that Jesus erred in choosing them, nor that Jesus at length would reject them. They were all restored except for despairing Judas, who was replaced by the first Apostolic successor, Matthias, in what would be a chain of successors for the Apostles, stretching from then until now.
So Jesus has not abandoned the Church. He knows EXACTLY what He is dealing with here. But He does not hate the Church, His Body; He does not hate His Bride.
How many times will this canard be trotted out after it has been repeatedly pointed out that this is not Catholic teaching?
Doubtless insight.
Insightful also.
Conflating the Org with the real one true Body of believers still! You’re can be so devious ...
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