James Martin, S.J. with Jorge Bergoglio, S.J. in private audience
Posted on 03/11/2021 8:16:46 AM PST by ebb tide
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This bum needs to be excommunicated and defrocked!
Ummm, I guess he doesn’t realize the prayer Jesus taught us begins with “Our Father, who art in Heaven...”
Geez Louise.
Let’s ask the Pope! /s
These people are evil.
Its pretty obvious he’s a practicing homosexual.
Just another manifestation of the male homosexual fascination with divas. As boys they were subjected to horrible mothers.
Catholic liberals think Jesus was a moron and needs to come talk to them about compassion and inclusiveness behavior..Clearly,He was so old school and needs to get with it...
Jesuits are evil
I like to call God “she” some times just to needle some of the more stuffy, arrogant Mormons I run into. The reaction is quite amusing.
Holy Spririt, please remove both of these heretics.
Is that a Her as in he/she or trans-her or just what?
Martin is trying to reconfigure the Trinity.
I often wondered just why a Trinity. When the so-called “Christ of this age” arrives, would this creature have a gall to say it is the Second Person of the Trinity? Son of the Father?
I do not think even Satan would go that far.
Why is it we sometimes hear folks refer to God as a woman, but we NEVER hear these folks refer to Satan as a woman? Ever. (rhetorical question)
This guy is just signaling. Our Father, or Father, Son and the Holy Ghost. While you can take gender as literal or not, that point is debatable. But if God and Jesus use the male gender, who is this guy to say its harmful. Using a masculine gender is clearly not damaging.
From the very end of article:
James Martin IGNORES this in his ERROR:
Martin also attempted to misuse St. Thomas Aquinas to defend his position, observing how Aquinas wrote that it is “necessary to find new words to express the ancient faith about God.” However, Aquinas wrote this line to defend using the term “person” when describing the Trinity, not to promote novelty in describing the nature of God.
In fact, Aquinas has already answered Martin’s theories. Early on in his magnus opus the Summa Theologiae, Aquinas taught that the “name HE WHO IS most properly belongs to God.” The formula, given by God to Moses (Exodus 3:13-14), is the most proper name for God, wrote Aquinas, due to its signification, universality and consignification.
This Scriptural passage is one which Martin notably avoids mentioning, even though it is one whereby God provides a direct answer to the manner in which He is to be understood by men: “I Am Who Am…He Who Is.”
St. Thomas also denotes the theologically sound understanding of God as Father, when explaining the three persons in the Trinity. “Now it is paternity which distinguishes the person of the Father from all other persons. Hence this name Father, whereby paternity is signified, is the proper name of the person of the Father.”
The male concept of God as Father, which Fr. Martin described as evidence of “damaging…patriarchal cultures,” is one taught by Christ Himself in the Scriptures - another Scriptural example which Martin avoids mentioning. It was how He taught the Apostles to pray and refer to God: “Thus therefore shall you pray: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.”
Christ repeatedly refers to God the Father throughout the Gospels, and mentions how He is the one who shall reveal God to man, and Christ does so by revealing God as Father. “And no one knoweth the Son, but the Father: neither doth any one know the Father, but the Son, and he to whom it shall please the Son to reveal him.”
It was with this phrase also, denoting God as Father, that St. Paul opened every one of his Epistles. In sending his greetings to the various recipients of his letters, Paul consistently mentions in the first few lines, “God our Father.”
Tell them God’s name is Howard - think about it.
This guy’s reading of John 3:16 must be interesting...
God is neither male nor female. English doesn’t have a pronoun just for God, so we have to pick one of the human pronouns. The scriptures use the masculine. Can we do better than that? (no)
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