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Denying communion to Catholic politicians is ‘toxic,’ N.J.’s Cardinal Tobin warns fellow bishops
NJ.com ^ | June 27, 2021 | Kelly Heyboer

Posted on 06/28/2021 11:36:48 AM PDT by ebb tide

Denying communion to Catholic politicians is ‘toxic,’ N.J.’s Cardinal Tobin warns fellow bishops

Sitting in his office in New Jersey, Cardinal Joseph Tobin looked into his computer’s camera and urged his fellow Catholic bishops to kill a proposal that could lead to denying Holy Communion to political leaders who support abortion rights.

The move could “drive a wedge” between Americans and the Catholic Church, Tobin told the members of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops gathered online for the high-profile debate.

“Any effort by this conference to move in support of the categorical exclusion of Catholic political leaders from the Eucharist based on their public policy positions will thrust the bishops of our nation into the very heart of the toxic partisan strife which has distorted our own political culture and crippled meaningful dialogue,” Tobin said.

He vowed to vote “no” on the proposal.

But Tobin — the Archbishop of Newark and the highest ranking Catholic official in New Jersey — was in the minority.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Theology
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"Nighty-nite, Baby" is a one of the four U.S. bishops elevated to the college of cardinals by Bergolio during his reign of terror. They are are all homo-friendly, Biden-supporting, open-borders, seamless garment heretics.

Pope appoints liberal Cardinal Tobin to Vatican’s highest court

1 posted on 06/28/2021 11:36:48 AM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 06/28/2021 11:37:23 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

So now it’s “toxic” to stand for morality.....


3 posted on 06/28/2021 11:38:42 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ebb tide

Because politicians have access to resources.


4 posted on 06/28/2021 11:38:59 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Whatever doesn’t kill you will make you stronger. Except bears. Bears will definitely kill you.h)
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To: ebb tide

No ... receiving the Eucharist in a state of mortal sin is “toxic”.


5 posted on 06/28/2021 11:39:22 AM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: ebb tide

I’ll take my communion with an aborted fetus and a side of transgender sodomy please.


6 posted on 06/28/2021 11:40:16 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ebb tide

It’s a time for choosing. Does the church speak a timeless truth, or do they blow in the wind for reasons of power in the way that any other organization does?


7 posted on 06/28/2021 11:40:54 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: ebb tide

I suppose this guy would have no problem denying comunion to just any common Joe!!!


8 posted on 06/28/2021 11:41:25 AM PDT by ontap
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To: ebb tide

Denying the Bible is toxic.


9 posted on 06/28/2021 11:42:49 AM PDT by bgill
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It’s real simple Joseph, either you have and hold to principles or you don’t. If you don’t you are a waste of oxygen and do not deserve to be here.

Making special accommodations and excusing offensive behavior because you wish to curry favor puts you in the second category.


10 posted on 06/28/2021 11:51:55 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The Catholic church has been corrupted by social justice.


11 posted on 06/28/2021 11:57:11 AM PDT by tbw2
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Denying communion to Catholic politicians is ‘toxic

At least one Jewish American (moi) disagrees.

ML/NJ

12 posted on 06/28/2021 12:00:19 PM PDT by ml/nj (DITCH MITCH !! and found)
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To: ebb tide

Nighty-Night Tobin is toxic to the Church.


13 posted on 06/28/2021 12:02:55 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: ebb tide

Another skull headed for the floor of Hell.


14 posted on 06/28/2021 12:04:27 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: al_c

That’s true, but shouldn’t these baby-killing politicians be allowed to go to Hell if they want to? No better place for them!


15 posted on 06/28/2021 12:12:40 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: ebb tide

#CardinalMeToobin ...?


16 posted on 06/28/2021 12:14:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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I am so tired of people calling loving, compassionate behavior toxic, because it doesn't allow them to pursue the passions of their perverted, sin-sick hearts. I'm a LCMS Lutheran and we don't allow people in open sin or those who haven't been instructed in the doctrine of the church to commune out of LOVE. We don't want them to eat and drink damnation on themselves. It's not because we're haters or because we want to call them out. It's because we want them to repent, to know what they're receiving, and to receive it rightly, thus receiving the gifts that Communion is intended to convey to the believer. These people sound like the passive parent who says, "Oh, let's not make Junior hate us. If he wants to stick the fork in the socket, we should let him." Not very loving towards Junior, by my reckoning, but hey, at least Junior's not upset.
17 posted on 06/28/2021 12:20:42 PM PDT by the lone haranguer (All civilized men love peace, but all truly civilized men must despise pacifism.)
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To: ebb tide
Well now, when exactly has GOD ever been afraid of a little toxicity?? When he tested Job? When he punished Sodom and Gomorrah? How about when he allowed his only son to be hung up on a cross to die? Seems "toxic" to today's woke crowd.

Sadly this is the Catholic church's attempt at testing the "sanctuary" rules. What sin shall we give sanctuary to next? Adultery? Blasphemy (LOL that seems ironic to even say in the face of this Tobin opinion!!)? How about Murder? or Serial Murder? I mean if abortion is no longer a "sin" than what is exactly?

When did the Catholic Church give up on teaching the word of God and the commandments and wholly commit to being bleeding heart Karens with NO conviction or commitment?!

18 posted on 06/28/2021 12:34:41 PM PDT by gtwizard (Income Inequality is called INCENTIVE!)
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To: ebb tide

Sure. It’s not like the host means anything. /s


19 posted on 06/28/2021 12:44:35 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: ebb tide

So Cardinal Tobin, what should we do? Should we sit quietly while these slobs are slautering young human beings? You are a man with no guts. You simply do not want to be hurt politically, much like Pope Francis. Get some guts. Stand up and be a man and take a stand against the killing of all these children.


20 posted on 06/28/2021 1:03:09 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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