Posted on 02/18/2022 8:20:52 AM PST by ebb tide
Jesuit Father Carlo Casalone, professor for immoral theology at the Gregorian University, urges the Church in LaCiviltaCattolica.it (January 15) to support an [immoral] assisted suicide legislation (“consensual homicide”) in Italy.
Marie-José Thiel, professor for immoral theology in Strasbourg, France, explained in the oligarchs’ LeMonde.fr (January 31) that Casalone could not have taken this position “without the approval of the Holy See.”
She also believes assisted suicide should be allowed “to avoid a worse evil” like assisted suicide on request. Thiel seems to be the only one not realising that this will precisely be the next step.
Both, Casalone and Thiel are members of Francis’ “Pontifical Academy for Life” whose task has become to rubberstamps immoral decisions of those in power. At least, the mastery of the Council Church in committing suicide is undisputed.
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You first, Francis.
Suicide is actually a VERY complicated issue. The Bible is clear, there is only 1 unforgivable sin and suicide is not that sin.
Regardless it is of such an irreversible nature that I think it best to NEVER be in a position to sanction it. We are called to struggle, it is the nature of our sinful lives on earth. Let G-d judge the sin, let us not be in any position to encourage the sinning of others.
Pope Soros.
It’s the only explanation for Benedict stepping down.
If you want to kill yourself, just do it.
Don’t drag other people into it.
Suicide is self murder and the last act a person takes before exiting life.
So you tell me if that’s not a serious moral issue?
There may be conditions of mental illness at play, but it doesn’t change the fact that each person is still on this earth because God placed us here. No one has the right to take what God has given.
Nothing I stated is in disagreement with what I posted. I agree with you.
I also know the Bible is clear, there is only 1 unforgivable sin and there absolutely examples of people committed suicide in the Bible who were likely found justified in the end.
Samson was specifically blessed by G-d to kill the philistines and did so through his suicide. There are other examples that are much more “fuzzy.”
I do not condone it nor am I saying the Bible does, I also think the Bible pretty much warns us all it is a very bad idea. All I am saying is I believe G-d can find a way to forgive but only he can judge so. The Bible, from my limited reading seems to support that position.
I meant
Nothing I stated is in disagreement with what you posted. I agree with you.
OMG!!! IMMORAL SAYS IT ALL! EVIL!
uh....Suicide IS a MORTAL SIN AGAINST the HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS and GOD the FATHER because the Suiucidee is saying that The TRINITY CANNOT HELP HIM/HER!
Give me an example from The New Testament, please.
Who comitted suicide in the Bible and was justified?
Matt 12:31
{12:31} For this reason, I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Is G-d lying in that scripture? It clearly sates EVERY SIN except blaspheming against the spirit.
Either we believe the bible and what G-d says or we do not. More than welcome to debate a difference of interpretation but that sure seems very clear to me.
Samson, or are you ready to state G-d Blessed Samson one more time, giving his strength back, so he could send him to hell?
Judas
He got his thirty pieces of silver and went out and hung himself
No, because that wasn’t suicide. Self-sacrifice to destroy the oppressive Philistines who were oppreing Israel wasn’t suicide.
Unless you are going to sa Self-sacrifice is suicide, that opens up a huge incongruity.
Semantics, suicide is the taking of you own life, period. You are now changing the definition
Suicide is defined very plainly - The act or an instance of intentionally killing oneself.
Now I agree intent matters but no knows the heart (read intent) but G-d. How do you know the person “self sacrificing” is doing it more for his comrades than for his hatred of another? You don’t, only G-d does. If your premise is anyone self-sacrificing is not committing suicide I disagree. In my time in the military I have known some who I believe were willing to give up their life not for love but for hate.
And yes i know if you do it for hate it really is not a self sacrifice, but I ask again, how would you as a man know such intent?
Also Saul is believed by many to be justified and he committed suicide to avoid being captured, that was not any kind of self-sacrifice.
To many treat this issue WAY to casually and have not bothered to dig into G-d’s word about it. Much is said and it is not a simple matter to understand.
Again I do not support suicide at all, I do however try to align with G-d’s word about it.
My POINT!! MORTAL SIN!
Why is it that when people need to mention God they will type it G-d or some such spelling? Is there some reason?
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