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Video: Michael Heiser…Are Aliens Demons? Are Alien Abductions Real?
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 2023 | Michael Heiser

Posted on 07/28/2023 1:43:58 AM PDT by spirited irish

Dr. Michael S. Heiser talks about the idea of there being alien life and what that could mean for Christianity. He discusses the popular idea that aliens are related to demons, or are demons. In addition, he takes a look at the phenomena of alien abduction and whether or not there is some truth to the events of what people have reported happened to them.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: angels; ets; fallen; michaelheiser; michaelsheiser
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1 posted on 07/28/2023 1:43:58 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: reviled downesdad; grcuster; sauropod; metmom; ViLaLuz; Roman_War_Criminal; Apple Pan Dowdy; ...

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2 posted on 07/28/2023 1:45:47 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: RoosterRedux

Michael Heiser aliens and demons video


3 posted on 07/28/2023 1:46:32 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish

Satan is the great deceiver.


4 posted on 07/28/2023 2:21:49 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: spirited irish

If there are any “aliens”, they’re not from outer space. Demons are fully capable of manifesting themselves to deceive people. Certainly those who want to distract the populace from the Biden crime syndicate are happy to have the news cycle inundated with something most people don’t care about but might find interesting in a freak show kind of way.


5 posted on 07/28/2023 2:44:38 AM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: stars & stripes forever
Absolutely. Yet the stronghold of naturalism (all that exists is what man can sense) over the minds of millions of Westerners and Americans blinds them to the reality of the unseen dimension and the evil spirits who dwell there

However, the strong walls of naturalism have been breached and the unseen realm is pouring through into the world of unbelieving mankind who struggles to comprehend with what is happening.

6 posted on 07/28/2023 2:47:42 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish

Not extraterrestrial, but interdimensional - fallen angel demons - they come to deceive, kill and destroy.


7 posted on 07/28/2023 3:03:02 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: Psalm 73

Agreed.


8 posted on 07/28/2023 3:07:00 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish
Direct link to video.

Are Aliens Demons? Are Alien Abductions Real?


9 posted on 07/28/2023 3:14:55 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: spirited irish

This was actually the point of the Mel Gibson movie “Signs,” but most people don’t get it.


10 posted on 07/28/2023 3:35:42 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: skr

“Demons are fully capable of manifesting themselves to deceive people.”

Not mentioned in the Bible.


11 posted on 07/28/2023 3:47:14 AM PDT by odawg
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To: spirited irish

...according to a small group in the scientific community, we’re living in a “matrix” or unreality, so it doesn’t matter anyway.

...according to Einstein there is a fourth dimension, and possibly more. With that - lies the possibility of parallel universes, and time travel.

...according to Sagan’s theory the distances are too great.

...according to scriptural visions there are astounding accounts of aerial phenomena.

...according to Pastor Gary (at el) the phenomenon is of the Devil.

...according to my ladyfriend I have chores to do before the excessive heat builds in this afternoon.

...according to my now empty coffee cup this would be a good time to finish my postulations and get my posterior up off this porch and start knocking those chores out. We’ll be at 111° today.


12 posted on 07/28/2023 3:56:14 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Openurmind; Churchjack; eastforker; Levy78; maddog55; Jonty30; GingisK; Mark17; spirited irish; ...
Pinging the list.

Heiser is excellent. I encourage everyone to read his tome, The Unseen Realm. The reviews at Amazon speak volumes about the importance of this book.

The nexus between UFO's and abductions and between aliens and demons/spiritual beings is a very interesting subject.

IMO, next to the issue of disclosure/confirmation itself, this is the single most important point of discussion.

BTW, I stress this point to folks coming to grips with the UFO issue in general: Don't jump to conclusions without considering all the facts. Keep an open mind and let the story develop a little bit--let the facts come in. BUT, don't let your guard down either--don't trust these "beings" or whatever they may tell us.


13 posted on 07/28/2023 4:12:07 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: spirited irish

We do believe in extra terrestrial life.

But calling them *angels* and *demons* only gets you mockery and derision.


14 posted on 07/28/2023 4:12:48 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: spirited irish
I saw what appeared to be solid, disc shaped craft, one in broad daylight, and another at night. Both at fairly low altitude. Both silent, but maneuvering in ways that traditional aircraft, helos, balloons, meteors do not.

For me, UFOs are a fact, not a belief. What they are, I have no idea.

Aliens? Angels? Demons? Time travelers? Interdimensionals? Mass hallucinations? (Ariel School and Voronezh incidents?) Who knows?

I sense that I may have entertained angels on two occasions (not the two ufo sightings) unbeknownst. And have certainly witnessed people who appeared demonically possessed. But remain doubtful of anybody who declares definitely that they are this or that or the other. It's just pure speculation.

15 posted on 07/28/2023 4:29:18 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: metmom
You are correct.

Just the other day, I mentioned to a good friend and fellow devout Christian that there is a contingent of generals in the Pentagon who have said we should stay away from these UFO's because they are demons and he (my friend) laughed.

I suggested to him that perhaps these generals know something we don't--that they might have inside information so to speak. He changed his tune.

When people hear the suggestion of "demons" regarding UFO's, they assume that it is a kneejerk reaction. It doesn't occur to them that it may be a conclusion drawn from many years of observation.

My conclusion is this: Interactions between humans and those so-called aliens who have abducted them leads one to strongly consider that the beings doing the abducting are liars, abusers, and even rapists in some cases. Abductees have regularly been told by their abductors that they are our creators and that they have genetically manipulated us.

As people who have studied the abduction phenomenon know quite well, many if not most abductions involve the taking of sperm and ovum and sexual experimentation.

16 posted on 07/28/2023 4:30:23 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: spirited irish

Human imagination opens a door for opportunity.


17 posted on 07/28/2023 4:34:48 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Absolutely. And no, most people don’t get it.


18 posted on 07/28/2023 4:39:30 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: Psalm 73

19 posted on 07/28/2023 4:42:12 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Clutch Martin; metmom; RoosterRedux; All
according to Einstein there is a fourth dimension

There is a 3rd dimension existing external to the time/space dimension or cosmos. The third dimension is where the Spirit of God, Jesus Christ, Holy angels, and souls of the saints reside.

Einstein was somewhat pantheistic in his reasoning, so like ancient Atomists and Stoics he believed as they did that extra dimensions existed within the cosmos.

Now there really is an unseen dimension down here. Ancient Mystery Religion initiates and modern DMT users call it the Abyss (see Genesis) and believe it to be utopia.

Of interest to this thread discussion are the monstrous beings seen and interacted with by DMT users. Users describe seeing reptilians, grays; Nordics, insectoids, goblins; dwarves, and a whole host of strange, weird, and frightening monsters.

Now what Revelation says is that at some point during the last days the abyss will open and all of that evil host will enter into the space/time dimension of man and all hell will break loose.

20 posted on 07/28/2023 4:57:22 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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