Posted on 07/29/2023 1:30:23 AM PDT by spirited irish
“The intimidation to remain silent is insidious and growing…what American Christians are facing is the 21st century version of the question, ‘Am I ashamed of the Gospel?”
If anything, some heterodox evolutionary theologians and their gullible Christian flocks, both evolutionary theist and progressive creationist, are at least as hostile if not more so toward orthodox defenders of the Genesis origin account than are their evolutionary atheist and occult pantheist counterparts: evolutionary materialists, Darwinists, Teilhardians, Luciferians, god-men, goddesses, shaman, Satanists, witches, necromancers, and astrologers.
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What evidence are you referring to, that you believe religion defies?
The evidence & science point to a mathematical impossibility that the Universe, and everything in it, was created from nothing. Something had to exist for the creation to begin, and intelligent design had to have been behind that creation.
New ideas & developments are only possible by creating from existing materials available to humans.
Well said.
Amen 🙏🏻!
Spot on!!
Agreed but most trees do not produce a “seed” that is so complex, those helicopter things that piss me off so much so just fine for those trees, my thought was God creating something beautiful but also helpful to others not just that tree. Can’t eat those helicopter pods or those wonderful ones that look like an oversized virus and are not good on the feet or for eating
One could argue the fruit is eaten and the seed crapped out so that expands the area for reproduction, but explain the evolutionary process there. I see a whole lot more oaks and maples in the wild than wild apple or pear trees….
Just a random thought that made me go hummm ain’t it cool
It is my feeling that the Bible isn’t a scientific treatise on creation, it is a love story. It is the story of God’s love for his creation. Those who put pen to paper to write down the Bible had different audiences and different traditions. The point is emphasis will be on different aspects of the story. I used to tell my children suppose some one broke into our house and we had.an expensive lamp given to us by Aunt Sally and the perpetrator broke the lamp. When I wrote Aunt Sally the first thing I might mention is her gift was broken. The police report would go by order of events etc.. So is my letter to Aunt Sally wrong or is the police report wrong? It is interesting that so many earth breaking scientific individuals were Christians. Gregor Mendel was a monk, author of the Big Bang theory was a Priest, Georges Lemaitre to name two. 65% of Nobel Prize winners were Christians or had Christian back grounds. Under 11% were atheist.
My church is doing a sermon series on bloodlines (see Matt 1 & Luke 3:23 for OT ancestry of Jesus. 42 generations back to Adam. Both maternal lineage in Matthew and paternal in Luke (also says in Luke that Joseph was thought to be the father of Jesus).
Next add in another 20 or so generations since Christ was resurrected. So power of 2 raised to the 6oth power is how many in each persons lineage all the way back to Adam and Eve?
1,152,921,504,606,846,976
or
1 quintillion, 152 quadrillion, 921 trillion, 504 billion...
Why must he have?
And deep inside each seed is the unique DNA for each kind.
Did you know DNA is a biological timeclock? Current accumulation of deleterious mutations means each kind can only max at around 20k years before the reproductive viabilty is completely lost.
You should read Michael Behe’s “Darwin Devolves” A system of natural selection acting on random mutation, evolution can help make something look and act differently. But evolution never creates something organically. Behe contends that Darwinism actually works by a process of devolution — damaging cells in DNA in order to create something new at the lowest biological levels. This is important, he makes clear, because it shows the Darwinian process cannot explain the creation of life itself. “A process that so easily tears down sophisticated machinery is not one which will build complex, functional systems,” he writes.
—> And to be a good Christian, I must believe that the earth is flat, the stars are little lights on a dome, and that every word in the Bible is literal, with no use of metaphores.
I’m in my 60s.
Lived all over the country
Attended different churches
Never met one person who believes any of that
Christ himself mentioned Adam.
The problem with what you are saying is that you believe in evolution and sort of tack on to that that God could have done it. What I understand from what you say is God might or might not have anything to do with it.
My idea is that none of this could have happened at all without an Intelligent Designer, that the existence of everything around us *points to* a Being with certain attributes.
I see it this way: if we were to track the history of the automobile, it would look a lot like the idea of evolution: we started with wheels, then rough carts and chariots, and then through powered vehicles that became more and more complex.
However, all that happened through design: man’s design. It’s not like someone found a car on an island where all the necessaries happened to be and came together as the result of earthquakes and lightning.
And if we found a mechanical object on a newly-discoverred island, or on the bed of the ocean, we would never say, oh, this must have formed spontaneously; we would say, I wonder who made this?
In the same way, when we look at the world we see things so vastly more complex than automobiles and should be struck by wonder at the Designer, not speculate about random forces.
Evolutionists extrapolate variation within species with evolution.
They assume the process can continue until there is an actual change in species.
Don’t forget the great flood.
Methuselah was the only remaining ancestor of Noah (for Catholics in the Douay Rheims English translation of St. Jerome’s Latin Vulgate: “Noe”) still alive as the storm was gathering. Tradition has it he died mere weeks before the flood began, so for Noah and his son’s, no grieving took place when the floodwaters rose in terms of lives lost in the paternal lineage.
The point is, only eight souls survived the flood, Noah, his three sons, and their wives. So you’ll certainly want to factor that into your math.
When you look at a full grown looking man, do you not presume age?
Catholics unabashedly declare that scripture is the inspired, inerrant Word of God.
What have you got?
Same here....
Evolution says nothing, NOTHING, about life’s origin. It speaks accurately about speciation. The modern science of genetics crashes and burns without evolution,
Along the lines of “literal, no use of metaphors” that is.
No leaping at a modern metaphorical interpretation that conflicts with what Holy Mother Church has taught at all times and at all places. Flat earth belief to one side as unnecessary. Not sure what to think of the stars/dome/”firmament” thingy.
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