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Who Is Intolerant Because Ashamed: Creationists or Evolutionary Theists?
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 2023 | Linda Kimball

Posted on 07/29/2023 1:30:23 AM PDT by spirited irish

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To: BrandtMichaels

They might have been thinking, though, with some regret, while bobbing along like a cork for months on end, that Grandpa Methuselah’s body, which they had just buried, was likely getting a little soggy. For what it’s worth.


41 posted on 07/29/2023 7:16:51 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: metmom

Certainly.

When you look at Genesis, do you presume a full grown looking man?

Why?


42 posted on 07/29/2023 8:07:15 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: one guy in new jersey; daniel1212

—> Catholics unabashedly declare that scripture is the inspired, inerrant Word of God.

Not.


43 posted on 07/29/2023 8:36:59 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Not?

Consider:

Pope Leo XIII in his 1893 encyclical, On the Study of Holy Scripture (Providentissimus deus) denounced rationalists who claimed that the gospels were not the work of the apostles and called them “true children and inheritors of older heretics,” noting:

It is absolutely wrong and forbidden either to narrow inspiration to certain parts only of Sacred Scripture or to admit that the sacred writer has erred ... For all the books which the Church receives as Sacred and Canonical are written wholly and entirely, with all their parts, at the dictation of the Holy Ghost; and so far is it from being possible that any error can coexist with inspiration, that inspiration not only is essentially incompatible with error, but excludes and rejects it as absolutely and necessarily as it is impossible that God Himself, the Supreme Truth, can utter that which is not True. This is the ancient and unchanging Faith of the Church... It follows that those who maintain that an error is possible in any genuine passage of the sacred writings, either pervert the Catholic notion of inspiration, or make God the author of such error.


44 posted on 07/29/2023 8:56:34 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

BTW: Why bring daniel1212 into this?

Is this a pet issue of his (agreeing, presumably, with you, and not with One Guy)?


45 posted on 07/29/2023 9:01:30 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Chicory

“Much Easier”-——
and it aligns with Truth in the world
We live in.


46 posted on 07/29/2023 9:05:56 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

There is a world of difference beteween *literal* and *True*.

God’s word is Truth, but that does not demand nor require that it be taken or interpreted literally. Anyone who reads it recognizes that there are songs, prophcies, parables, allegories, metaphors, and similies and it is NOT hard to discern which is which. Especially when the author says something like *Then Jesus told them this parable....*

People who conflate the two are just looking for excuses to reject it and God, just like all the other vapid arguments/accusations against God.


47 posted on 07/29/2023 9:06:55 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: ExGeeEye

Because Scripture tells us God created a man and communicated with him telling him to fill the eearth and subdue it.

Or do you think God laid a sperm and en egg on the ground and let nature take its course?


48 posted on 07/29/2023 9:11:10 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom

Why not an infant, who then grew into (I have reasons for saying so) an adolescent?

How old must a person be before such things can be communicated?

If I, as a child, understood those words when they were read to me from the Word, why could they not be understood by the one to whom they were said at a similar stage of life?


49 posted on 07/29/2023 9:18:19 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: carcraft

A Love Story
Absolutely 💯
A Manuel for survival in a fallen World.


50 posted on 07/29/2023 9:19:51 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: metmom
"They are looking for an excuse to reject Him and any will do"

Or are they looking for a way to for the scriptures to be true without denying their very eyes and what looking at the world tells us? Creationists tell us the earth is only 6,000 years old, which I refuse to believe. But we also know that the Bible contains a lot of metaphor. For example, can it be that knowledge isn't actually a physical tree growing somewhere, but is simply like a tree?

Science is just a tool, and is often wrong. Tt takes a meandering path to the truth at best, making wrong turns on occasion, and is never to be fully trusted. But it is also not the devil himself, lying constantly and seeking our destruction. If viewed that way, anyone not living a very primitive life will fall under judgement, because a lot of what we have today is the result of science.
51 posted on 07/29/2023 9:53:46 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: metmom

Yes on reflection that is a bit of an extreme comparison on my part. But creationists tell us that the earth is only 6,000 years old, and if that is the case it might as well be flat. I’m not a creationist in that sense, and I don’t think that God requires me to be. I can believe in God and the Bible and still have a realistic view of the world.


52 posted on 07/29/2023 9:57:46 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: one guy in new jersey

—> Why bring daniel1212 into this?

Daniel1212 can answer your claims with factual quotes from the Roman church.

Since you make claims and don’t back them up with facts, I thought I’d invite him to comment.


53 posted on 07/29/2023 10:16:43 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: one guy in new jersey

Yes, not.

Thank you.


54 posted on 07/29/2023 10:17:32 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Robert DeLong
"What evidence are you referring to"

Evidence that the world is more than 6,000 years old, as creationists claim. Evidence that animals adapt to their environments, and therefore evolve. I don't think that evidence defies religion, by the way. Only our interpretation of what we think we must believe in order for God to exist.
55 posted on 07/29/2023 10:18:17 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Project much?


56 posted on 07/29/2023 10:31:54 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

Not


57 posted on 07/29/2023 11:08:28 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

—> But creationists tell us that the earth is only 6,000 years old

Only a subsegment of creationists


58 posted on 07/29/2023 11:09:49 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: wbarmy

the circular ball of earth floating on nothing you can see, that at a macular level is visually flat as “far as the eye can see”... is indeed flat, compared to a golf ball.

the giveaway that what is macular is not exactly galactic in reality comes in the descriptions of a circle in a spiral and a wheel within a wheel... is on a micro and super scale dead on for a physical description which at the time, humans could not actually see or comprehend... it is the divine fractal

Christ was literally slain before the foundation of the earth was created.... meaning God created time and uses it like we fold up and store, retrieve and expend dollar bills in our wallet. He is not subject to the bills... they are subject to him and HE made the wallet too.

he is in NO WAY other than as a courtesy to our comprehension... personally subject to time, space and the supposed laws of physics.

the stars were created in such a way that all light was already in process flowing through the universe as the galaxies were and still are called into visible existence at his pleasure.

What we see and how things appear may NOT BE the way they are in true reality where God operates. our implementation of reality seems to be subject to time.

God’s universe is but a puppet... and he wisely has chosen to hide some of the strings... His prerogative...

It is God’s glory to conceal a thing... and the king’s glory to seek it out.

YMMV


59 posted on 07/29/2023 11:17:38 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (utilize leverage at every opportunity.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Well, that's a good thing.
60 posted on 07/29/2023 11:27:17 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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