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Pope Francis says ‘trans’ people can be godparents, homosexual ‘parents’ can have children baptized
LifeSite News ^ | Michael Haynes

Posted on 11/08/2023 2:19:01 PM PST by ebb tide

Edited on 11/09/2023 2:50:47 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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Not unsurprisingly, prominently pro-LGBT activist priest, Father James Martin SJ welcomed the document as “an important step forward in the church seeing … transgender people not only as people (in a church where some say they don’t really exist) but as Catholics.”
1 posted on 11/08/2023 2:19:01 PM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 11/08/2023 2:20:23 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

We see them as people ... Jimmy is slandering us right there.

Thing is, we see them as people living an publicly sinful lifestyle and thereby giving scandal.


3 posted on 11/08/2023 2:24:12 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ebb tide

I’m not Catholic, but I remember when the Pope was Catholic.


4 posted on 11/08/2023 2:27:57 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: ebb tide
Are Trans Women (aka Men) allowed to be nuns and join a convent?
Just curious.

5 posted on 11/08/2023 2:29:08 PM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty)
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To: libertylover

So....Maybe that answers the age old question....Is the Pope Catholic?


6 posted on 11/08/2023 2:30:06 PM PST by oldtech
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To: ebb tide

Not surprising since he considers himself god.


7 posted on 11/08/2023 2:32:04 PM PST by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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To: ebb tide

In case you wonder what the works of Satan look like, this is it.


8 posted on 11/08/2023 2:39:40 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: libertylover

RE: I’m not Catholic, but I remember when the Pope was Catholic.

And when bears didn’t come into rest stops or use fast food restrooms.🐻🚽🧻


9 posted on 11/08/2023 2:45:21 PM PST by frank ballenger (“My job is to inform, not to convince.” St. Bernadette Soubirous )
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To: ebb tide

How could any gay or trans participate in a baptism in good faith. How could they agree to be Godparents if they understood the responsibilities that they are undertaking?


10 posted on 11/08/2023 2:46:13 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: ebb tide

Soon the perpetual queers masquerading as nuns in LA will be put in charge of Catholic daycare in LA. The Catholic Church is losing its moral authority and influence. The homosexual degradation of the Church has taken its toll. Even Catholics do not view it as the moral beacon it once was. Very much doubt that the baby killing amendment in Ohio would have passed if a man like John Paul II were Pope.


11 posted on 11/08/2023 2:49:01 PM PST by allendale
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To: ebb tide

I suspect I am going to see my Lord before the Catholic church returns to its Lord’s discipleship teaching. He and I can weep for the apostasy of His Bride.


12 posted on 11/08/2023 2:50:26 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: ebb tide

I have heard that Catholics believe the inclination and attraction are not sins but the acting on them is. Maybe the Pope thinks that sounds pushy and judgmental or something.

“Persons with a homosexual inclination ought to receive every aid and encouragement to embrace this call personally and fully. This will unavoidably involve much struggle and self-mastery, for following Jesus always means following the way of the Cross...The Sacraments of the Eucharist and of Penance are essential sources of consolation and aid on this path.”
- USCCB, Ministry to Persons with a Homosexual Inclination (2006), p. 13


13 posted on 11/08/2023 2:52:15 PM PST by frank ballenger (“My job is to inform, not to convince.” St. Bernadette Soubirous )
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14 posted on 11/08/2023 2:53:33 PM PST by frank ballenger (“My job is to inform, not to convince.” St. Bernadette Soubirous )
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To: ebb tide

All children most certainly be baptized, but the responsibilities of a God parent cannot be carried out by anyone that identifies with one of the alphabet soup identities, including transgender.


15 posted on 11/08/2023 3:01:03 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Rebuild the Temple.)
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To: allendale
The homosexual degradation of the Church has taken its toll.

Just the latest example of institutional capture by the left. From corporations to government, environment to education. Pharma and the media.

We can count our allies on one hand. Lets not delude ourselves, we are loosing. The sky is vailed, and a deadly demonic power is rising. A sleepless malice with hatred at its core.

Lock and load and keep your family and friends close and safe. May God help us all. Sorry to be a downer.

16 posted on 11/08/2023 3:10:35 PM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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Is there nothing that Catholics can do to remove this guy? I'm Baptist (formerly) and if a preacher is a heretic, the Deacons/Elders can meet and vote to remove him from the pulpit.

I was seriously contemplating converting to Catholicism about 3 years ago but this guy...

17 posted on 11/08/2023 3:32:46 PM PST by LibertyWoman (America, the Handwriting is on the Wall. )
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To: ebb tide

Evil incarnate POS ANTI pope. NOT the Pope.


18 posted on 11/08/2023 3:47:31 PM PST by GrumpyOldGuy
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To: BitWielder1

Don’t give them any ideas.


19 posted on 11/08/2023 4:26:53 PM PST by stylecouncilor ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: frank ballenger

Homosexuality is one thing, and can exist as an inclination fought against. Trans is completely difference, and even if it is simply mental illness, is based on a rejection of God the creator and of His creation and in fact of created nature.

There is no way of legitimizing any of this or making it acceptable for a Christian. Even if it were regarded as a form of possession or mental illness, a person with those attitudes does not have the fundamental faith to be baptized.

This is also disaster because it takes away the protection of Catholic doctors, parents and teachers who reject “transsexuality.” There is no such thing possible in Christianity but now the Church has thrown them - as well as the deluded victim him or herself - to the wolves,


20 posted on 11/08/2023 4:28:16 PM PST by livius
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