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The impossible dialogue with Islam.
somatemps ^ | December 29, 2016 | Fr. Custos Ballester Bielsa

Posted on 03/06/2024 3:08:17 AM PST by Cronos

Fight against those who, having received the Scripture, do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, nor prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor practice the true religion, until, humiliated, they pay the tribute directly! (Muhammad. The Quran. Sura 9:29)

I do not believe that Monsignor Juan José Omella was very well inspired when he wrote his Sunday letter entitled The Necessary Dialogue with Islam. http://www.revistaecclesia.com/necesario-dialogo-islam-juan-jose-omella-omella-arzobispo-barcelona/

This new reactivation of Christian-Muslim dialogue, paralyzed by the alleged “imprudences” of the long-missed Benedict XVI, is very far from becoming a reality. And Islam does not allow dialogue. Either you believe, or you are an infidel who must be subdued one way or another.

It is the same as affirming, with all the good will in the world, that Catholics must maintain an open and conciliatory dialogue with abortionists, euthanasists and promoters of gender ideology. Well no, that's not it. It is one thing that we do not despise people for what they believe and think and that we do not persecute them for it, and quite another that we have to hibernate our faith so that it does not clash with the progressive dogma and the ideology that has declared it. the war on our faith. With the very serious added inconvenience that they have also declared it to people. In countries where Muslims are in power, Christians are brutally persecuted and killed. What dialogue are we talking about then? And the last straw is that, in order to be dialoguers, in addition to silencing our faith “out of prudence,” we have to bow to theirs. It is the new style of the new era: dialogue not only with Islam (with the Islamic faith), but also with the new social and moral engineering and its aberrations. That's what it takes!

When in January 2011 a car bomb, detonated by Islamists at the doors of the Coptic cathedral of Alexandria, left 21 dead and more than 70 injured among the faithful attending the New Year's Eve Mass, Pope Benedict XVI raised his voice. to denounce what so many then and now want to keep quiet or cover up: the fierce persecution of Christians in Muslim countries.

This act – Benedict stated – offends God and all humanity. This vile gesture of death, like placing bombs now near the homes of Christians in Iraq to force them to leave, offends God and all humanity, who just yesterday prayed for peace and began a new year with hope.

The Islamic response was immediate: the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar University considered these words as unacceptable interference: "I do not agree with the Pope's point of view," he stated, "and I wonder why the Pope has not called to protect Muslims when they are killed in Iraq. He was referring to the maximum leader of the Christians, and it seemed fatal to him that he defended them when the Muslims killed them...

And you have to get inside the big heads of the Moors to understand them. Christians in Muslim territory are tolerated and “protected”, they are dhimmi, that is, if they pay tribute to the Islamic power by paying the Jizya, a special tax that only Christians pay to be able to practice their faith without being persecuted and condemned for it. Christian minorities in Muslim-majority countries such as Syria or Iraq are forced to pay Jizya to avoid being killed or enslaved. And this, of course, is a special situation of grace that can end when the religious or political power deems it appropriate. That is why they consider it an intolerable interference by Benedict XVI to interfere in the internal affairs of a Muslim country no matter how many dhimmi – Christians – they murder. The infidels are the property of the State, which can dispose of them as it sees fit: either by charging them the tax on the infidels or by exterminating them. What the Pope must have believed trying to impose rules of conduct on Muslim countries!

Then the great imam of Al-Azhar University (the same one who harshly criticized Benedict XVI), Ahmad Al-Tayeb, will come and hug Pope Francis. But that will not change the nature of an Islam based on a direct and immediate revelation that becomes a book - the Quran - indisputable and uninterpretable. As it is written, you have to believe it. Prayer, almsgiving, the pilgrimage to Mecca and… also jihad and the extermination of the infidels!

And the meeting itself is not the message. The meeting between Francis and the great imam does not by itself transform a reality of hundreds of years, nor the story of Muhammad: the prophet who spent his entire life from raid to raid subduing with blood and fire those who opposed him. . The meeting cannot be the message: a hug and a photo mean nothing if you do not have the courage to say that Islam has evident elements of violence in the Koran and in the life of Muhammad. If we continue to say that "Islam is a religion of peace" we only create confusion and perplexity. And especially if one does not have the courage to place, in front of the figure of Muhammad the warrior, the image of the Crucified, the Lord of the Universe. Good difference, right? Or is it reckless to remind Muslims of the different nature of the Christian religion?

And let no one come to me with the refrain that in Christianity there is also violence because there are Christians who kill their mother-in-law, since the violation of the commandments has never been supported by Holy Scripture, neither now nor ever. And let them not tell us today what Christianity was yesterday (which many episodes tell of how it was also imposed by the sword), fiercely condemning it, of course: to argue that Christianity was very bad, but Islam is pure? peace? Let us not deceive ourselves, the Islam of today and always, which is what we are trying to harmonize with Christianity, with one hand promotes works of charity, while it arms the other hand to annihilate all those who refuse to recognize Allah, and Muhammad as the last and definitive prophet of God.


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1 posted on 03/06/2024 3:08:17 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Islam wants a war with everything that isn’t Islam.


2 posted on 03/06/2024 3:20:24 AM PST by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: Cronos

Dealing with Muslims, they got it righ the first time.

3 posted on 03/06/2024 3:23:51 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Cronos

Dialogue with Islam, that is a joke in its self. They hate everything and everyone including themselves .


4 posted on 03/06/2024 3:27:27 AM PST by spincaster
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To: Cronos

Islam allows die-alogue. It speaks, you die.


5 posted on 03/06/2024 3:35:34 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Cronos

El Rushbo had it right so many years ago. Negotiating with the muslim is impossible because the only offer they place on the table is our death.

These sixth century savages respond to only one thing: naked, merciless force being visited upon them.


6 posted on 03/06/2024 3:40:45 AM PST by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To: Cronos

Islam, when worshiping Satan just isn’t evil enough.


7 posted on 03/06/2024 8:25:40 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: central_va

In hoc signo vinces


8 posted on 03/06/2024 8:33:44 AM PST by Rappini ("No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation" MacArthr)
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