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Why Christians Don't Understand Non-Christians
ArGee | 1/3/01 | ArGee

Posted on 01/03/2002 11:19:13 AM PST by ArGee

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To: Darth Sidious
That is the most shallow reason for coming to Christ, if you'll permit my saying so.

Well, then Jesus was a pretty shallow teacher since He is the one that preached the most about Hell. He thought the torment of Hell was so bad that He took on flesh and tasted death for us so that we would be able to escape the pain of Hell.

Unless people come to know that they are sinners and just how dire the consequence of their sin is, they have no reason to turn to Jesus as their Saviour.

-ksen

61 posted on 01/03/2002 12:30:57 PM PST by ksen
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To: ArGee
Christianity requires that you accept the reign of Jesus in your life. If you reject that reign, you will go to the place where He does not reign. It will be your choice.

I'm just curious why you would make that choice? What has that place got that Heaven hasn't got

The problem is that you've never demonstrated that heaven or "that place" even exist. You must first establish the existance of one or both before any intelligent conversation about the nature of such places can begin.

62 posted on 01/03/2002 12:31:32 PM PST by LuvItOrLeaveIt
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To: Stultis
A more correct way to point out how you feel is; that you refuse to follow Christ because you choose not to. That is your free will and God respects that, he will not force you. But if you make this choice, then please accept what Jesus said the consequences would be.
63 posted on 01/03/2002 12:31:45 PM PST by soundsolutions
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To: Magician
We have our own more open and accessable paths to where we want to go in this life and in the next.

You are absolutely right!

 Matthew 7
 13.  "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
 14.  But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
 15.  "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

64 posted on 01/03/2002 12:32:29 PM PST by Elsie
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To: Darth Sidious
We come to Christ because we want Him, for His sake. Anything else is selfishness on our part.

It doesn't matter why we come, only that we come. Once we see Him for who He is the reasons become unimportant. One woman came to Him to be healed of a bleeding disorder. Another came to better understand G-d. One wanted to be healed of blindness. One wanted his daughter healed. One wanted his servant healed. One simply wanted to be more than a fisherman. We all come to Him for our own reasons.

Come to Him for whatever reason you wish.

Just come!

Though the curse has long been broken Adam's sons are still the prisoners of their fears.
Running helter-skelter to distruction with their fingers in their ears.
And the Master's voice is calling with an urgency I've never heard before.
Won't you come in from the darkness, son, before it's time to finally close the door?
Adam, Adam, Where are you?
Adam, Adam, Where are you?
Adam, Adam, I love you!

-Don Francisco
Shalom.
65 posted on 01/03/2002 12:33:47 PM PST by ArGee
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To: fourdeuce82d
"...we would have to assume that God reveals himself to us directly on a pretty regular basis- he has not done so to me"

My question, in sincerity; have you revealed yourself to God? directly? and on a pretty regular basis?

I ask this because God reveals Himself frequently to those who would seek him out.

66 posted on 01/03/2002 12:34:18 PM PST by Pietro
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To: chookter
The only ones banned forever from the banquet are the servers caught urinating in the lobster bisque.

How Profound

67 posted on 01/03/2002 12:34:32 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: ArGee
What has that place got that Heaven hasn't got?

Pride


68 posted on 01/03/2002 12:34:52 PM PST by Elsie
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To: ArGee
What makes you think that non-Christians don't go to heaven? Was it something you read, or is this a first-hand experience?
69 posted on 01/03/2002 12:34:53 PM PST by stuartcr
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To: soundsolutions;argee;*BRAAD
I know you all didn't hear me.

Jim Robinson said
No Religious Discussions

70 posted on 01/03/2002 12:34:58 PM PST by Khepera
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To: fourdeuce82d
For your parable to be accurate, we would have to assume that God reveals himself to us directly on a pretty regular basis- he has not done so to me; (no sarcasm, just statement of fact)if he does so I would be happy to accept his invitation.

It is my belief that G-d has revealed Himself to everyone. What would you have Him do to reveal Himself to you?

Shalom.

71 posted on 01/03/2002 12:35:29 PM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
What if the dinner is only for invited guests..like most weddings are ?
72 posted on 01/03/2002 12:36:09 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: citizenY2K
And have no desire to go there in future.

Why not?

Shalom.

73 posted on 01/03/2002 12:36:38 PM PST by ArGee
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To: fourdeuce82d
This is an excellent question; but before I answer it, you must be willing to agree that the premise is logical and makes sense. I used to feel exactly how you do, until this point was made to me. So your job, as was mine, is to empty your mind of prejudges and explore each religions claims. I think it will become crystal clear for you, as it did me, which one is true.
74 posted on 01/03/2002 12:36:53 PM PST by soundsolutions
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To: soundsolutions
This is why all religions are probably false, unless you have a logical reason for believing a particular religion is true.
75 posted on 01/03/2002 12:37:04 PM PST by stuartcr
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To: LuvItOrLeaveIt
I've never seen an invitation, let alone the guy running the banquet!

Have you looked?

Shalom.

76 posted on 01/03/2002 12:37:32 PM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee;*BRAAD
And there you have it... Nobody cares what Jim Robinson says.
77 posted on 01/03/2002 12:38:54 PM PST by Khepera
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To: Tauzero
You neglected to mention the rich man's sweatshop and how a few of the meals in the company cafeteria are randomly poisoned.

This is my story and only I get to invent details.

If you are referring to something in Christianity, I'm not getting the reference. Forgive me for being dense, but could you be a little more explicit?

Shalom.

78 posted on 01/03/2002 12:39:04 PM PST by ArGee
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To: LuvItOrLeaveIt
God makes the rules; Jesus said “without faith, it is impossible to please God”.
79 posted on 01/03/2002 12:39:17 PM PST by soundsolutions
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To: ArGee
A slight variation on an earlier response by "lexcorp":

(Almost) everybody thinks the banquet dinner in the arena is a wonderful idea. Thousands, if not millions, of people start showing up at the same time.

When they all see each other, they start arguing very loudly amongst themselves and to the rich man trying to explain why such-and-such a person shouldn't be allowed (they got a divorce, they ate meat on a Friday, they don't speak in tongues, etc) into the arena.

The arguments reach such a fevered pitch that they all set up their own little buildings around the arena and insist to others that the only way to get an actual invitation (and not some sort of counterfeit ticket) to the arena is to first join the group in their smaller building, a group which has it's own set of exclusive rules

My point - you can't even get Christians of the same and/or different denominations to agree on what it means to be a Christian. No wonder you can't even begin to understand those who are not...

80 posted on 01/03/2002 12:40:15 PM PST by gdani
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