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To: discostu
what I still haven't figured out is exactly which eternal torment I'm trying to avoid

I get the impression you've been talking to the wrong believers, if you've been talking to believers at all.

Because of sin, you are separated from G-d. By the sacrifice of Jesus your relationship with G-d is restored. I'm not asking you to avoid eternal torment, I'm offering you a chance to know a more beautiful love relationship than you have ever imagined because the G-d you enter into a relationship with is more beautiful than you have ever imagined.. Not some future relationship, but a relationship you can be a part of now. It starts today and goes on for eternity, getting better as it grows.

If there is an eternal torment, it is realizing that this relationship could have been yours, but you have rejected it.

Is a relationship like that something you would want?

Shalom.

567 posted on 01/04/2002 8:44:19 AM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
Oh I've talked to a lot of believers, in general I aim up in the food chain. I've had great discussion with pastors, priests, and rabbis. Rabbis rock, I don't care what your faith is Rabbis give good talk and solid advice (especially the Hassids).

In general it depends on the sect and the believer. There are a lot of fire and brimstone folks out there, Christianity has more than any other religion I've encountered. The Sunday morning TV crowd doesn't seem to be able to complete a sentence without mentioning the fires of Hell.

As for whether I'm interested in that kind of relationship: not any more. Been there, done that, didn't like it, ain't going back. Maybe it's because I'm an only child from a single parent household whose mom worked night for a while, but self suficiency is really my thing. At least on the spiritual level I go through life kind of like Caine in Kung Fu, walking the earth alone solving problems where I can. That's how I'm comfortable.

604 posted on 01/04/2002 9:32:23 AM PST by discostu
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