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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
And what is scripture's first commandment? It ain't in the Decalogue. It comes much earlier, and it says, "Be Fruitful and Multiply."

Hmmm. Strange that you seek apply this to we second-class citizens that you call "invincibly ignorant" or some other derogatory name, but for your "Queen of Heaven" that you pray to and venerate vociferously, it doesn't apply. To you it was OK for her to disobey God's commands and deprive her husband of his due and stay a virgin perpetually. I believe the term that applies to you would be hypocrite. I don't mean all RC's just those who seek to put us NC's under your man-made rules. Of course I don't believe Mary disobeyed God as your church does (by implication), so don't call me a Mary-hater.

30 posted on 04/08/2002 8:24:54 PM PDT by Iowegian
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To: Iowegian
Catholics believe that separating the unitive and procreative aspects of the act of sexual intercourse is a mortal sin. The Church holds up those people who sacrifice their virginity for love of God (Mary being one of them). And the Church does not condemn those who are unable to procreate (because of infertility, etc.).
35 posted on 04/08/2002 8:38:48 PM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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To: Iowegian
Perhaps you'd like to ask Catholics what they really believe about Mary and find out the truth rather than just asking your Protestant friends and "figuring it out" amongst yourselves. With all due respect, I'm Catholic, and you don't know what the heck you are talking about. Your 'Christian' hate and lies are offensive.
36 posted on 04/08/2002 8:39:43 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Iowegian
To you it was OK for her to disobey God's commands and deprive her husband of his due and stay a virgin perpetually. I believe the term that applies to you would be hypocrite.

Mary was the spouse of the Holy Spirit before she was the spouse of Joseph.

Luke 1 [35] And the angel said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God.

I wouldn't mess with the spouse of the Third person of Holy Trinity. If YOU were told in a dream that the Holy Spirit had come upon your betrothed and made her flesh a literal Tabernacle of the Flesh of the Son of God, second person of the Trinity, the single most blessed womb in the history of mankind, you too then would have done what Joseph did. No. He would not have violated that virginal womb, that temple and Tabernacle where our Lord was formed when the Holy Spirit came upon Mary.

Joseph was foster father of Jesus. He was betrothed to Mary. Mary was first the spouse of the Holy Spirit.

If you comprehended this simple fact, and its immense implications, you would understand why your words are blasphemous.

But blind and heardened hearts refuse to see, preferring their doctrines of men over the Truths of God.

101 posted on 04/09/2002 11:34:30 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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