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1 posted on 07/26/2002 2:35:57 PM PDT by narses
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Ping. I kept asking about this and decided to do a google search and voila`, an answer.
2 posted on 07/26/2002 2:37:42 PM PDT by narses
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"liberation theology" which is a biblically contradictory Trojan horse within the Catholic gates.


BTW, you find the darndest articles. Ever look for anything positivie about the Catholic Church?

3 posted on 07/26/2002 2:53:21 PM PDT by Salvation
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I appreciate the interesting article and the ping. Since you say you are new around here, I will point out one little thing:

Please e-mail for Chuck's PERMISSION in advance, to post, reprint, or reproduce this article for any other format of publication, electronic or otherwise.

I don't want to sound like a nit-picker, but you probably should have just posted the first paragraph and a link, like we do for the LATimes and Wash Post (lawsuit -- remember?) Tsk, tsk.

Now that I've acted like one of those obnoxious sitepests, do you have any idea when this was written? Chuck's website just says copywrite 2000, 2001, 20002. Please don't take me off your ping list just because I mildly reprimanded you (I didn't scream ABUSE). Your articles are very informative, and I enjoy them very much.

7 posted on 07/26/2002 3:33:03 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Yep. During the 30's both the higher education system and the church (among other institutions)were infiltrated a la Antonio Gramsci. We can weed them out but we have to go back to ascetics.Here are some related links:
8 posted on 07/26/2002 3:33:50 PM PDT by Domestic Church
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I don't care when this was written. It's scary.
9 posted on 07/26/2002 3:52:44 PM PDT by Desdemona
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This is one frightening article, narses. But I thank you for posting it.

Pinging and a bump.

11 posted on 07/26/2002 4:04:58 PM PDT by Siobhan
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As a traditional Jew, I'm deeply concerned over the plight of the Roman Catholic Church.

Up front, I have to admit that, based on his past articles, I think Chuck Morse is a scaremonger.

I wonder why, if he's Jewish, he's not focusing on his own people, who largely support socialism, both in Israel and in the United States.

20 posted on 07/26/2002 5:27:17 PM PDT by sinkspur
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Thomas Merton, whose writings I detest, was a Communist prior to his conversion to Catholicism. Now I am wondering if he was really part of the plot described here. It would not surprise me at all. For some reason I could never fathom, he is held in great esteem by the post Vatican II Church. And he was a great buddy of.... none other than our infamous Milwaukee archbishop Weakland.
21 posted on 07/26/2002 5:55:23 PM PDT by Litany
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Thanks narses. I like the stuff you post because it almost always leads me on to further research. Before FR, I had never heard of Gramsci or Windswept House, and I knew next to nothing about Cardinal Bernardin, Cardinal Mahony or Cardinal Weakland. I am so grateful that so many posters post such diverse information. I've certainly gotten an education!

Check out this column by Chuck Morse: "Treachery in the Catholic Church"

"Quite clearly, the Church is not the colossal pillar of morality it was back in the 1950's. This is because the self-described change-agents have been literally gnawing away like termites at the innards of the Church for decades. These so-called progressives smell victory over their old nemesis, yet, after assiduously boring from within and battering from without these many years, the Church refuses to devolve into yet another shell-like clone of progressivism as has been the case with American education, entertainment, the Judiciary and elsewhere. The change-agents are pre-maturely blowing taps over the Church while flabbergasted Catholic parishioners, temporarily set off balance by the astonishing revelations of corruption and corrosion of faith amongst the Church's princes, are demanding that the Church return to the ways of the holy mother faith. While destructive damage has already been done to the lives and faith of many, damage that in many cases is not redeemable, there are hopeful signs that goodness is returning."

22 posted on 07/26/2002 5:55:49 PM PDT by american colleen
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Thanks Narses,I read Bella Dodd's memoirs long ago and also read elsewhere that she had testified to the House unAmerican Activities committee. I knew it was true and keep telling Freepers that some of this scandal is not so surprising since the Church had been infiltrated,since I can't link and have some other difficulties I am so happy and grateful to you for finding it and posting it, I am going to try to ping some people that have questioned me about my source. I think I must have given the book to Visiting Nurse accidentally,last time I moved. Thanks again.
23 posted on 07/26/2002 5:56:21 PM PDT by saradippity
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Thanks for the bumps (I no longer have access to my own ping list till my laptop gets repaired).

Good article, narses. I do not believe the "communist threat" has gone away, only morphed into less threatening forms, like the environmentalist, globalist, and pop con groups, not to mention the Clintons and Democrats in general.

I went to Haiti twice on medical missionary trips before I realized the brothers I was working with there were full blown liberation theology types. President Aristide, reinstalled by Clinton, was a defrocked Catholic priest, liberation theology guru, and had all the voodoo symbols sewn into the inside of his vestments so they were reversible for any occasion.

32 posted on 07/26/2002 6:55:40 PM PDT by Polycarp
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If more than 1000 communists were sent as "moles" into the Church, and if these guys were truly bright and dedicated, then we can speculate that more than a few became bishops.
42 posted on 07/26/2002 7:29:41 PM PDT by RobbyS
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"Homosexuals, practicing their predilections in an overwhelmingly conservative Catholic community, while given protection by well-placed [similarly]minded superiors, could certainly contribute to the undermining of faith in Catholicism..."

As I have stated before, THIS is the nut of the thing. The priests would have gotten nowhere with their predations and abuses if their BISHOPS hadn't been complicit. Don't get me wrong: I love my Church and what she stands for. But I have had real misgivings about the holiness and purity of intention of most of the U.S. bishops for several years. I can't say what triggered the suspicion, but it hasn't improved with time. I guess I want to say that it won't do much good to kick out and defrock the pederast priests if we leave their equally guilty superiors in place.

59 posted on 07/26/2002 8:16:39 PM PDT by redhead
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More of the same from Narses. Always sowing doubt, discord and confusion. EVERYTHING IS EVIL, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS FAILED. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES.....

LOL. Narses, you are posting these attacks so frequently and so closely together that your unspoken agenda is being revealed...careful :)

85 posted on 07/27/2002 5:09:35 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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Big'ol_bump...Interesting article

172 posted on 07/28/2002 5:00:16 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper
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Catholic Charities is an organization that does not support arguments that there's NOT a communist influence in the church.
265 posted on 12/23/2002 12:22:43 PM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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The Lucis Trust and the United Nations seem very innocuous on the front but their agenda is the ruination of souls and the conversion of the world.

The Lucis Trust is on WOR radio, New York, New York City's 2nd-Largest AM Radio Station WOR Radio 710 AM on you dial every Sunday from 7 am - 8 am. I happened to stumble on it one morning and have been researching it for a few weeks now. New Age and Satan Worship.

Here are some links

Teaching God's children to worship "Divine Nature"

The Earth Charter

UNESCO: A Budding Global School Board

Rebutting Rockefeller

The European Union's Stealth Attack on Religion ____________________________________________________

The Church is against Communism and Socialism, Make sure the socialists do not take over; they are working from within the church and are part of the media and will stop at nothing from destroying the Church.
DECEMBER 28, 1878
DECEMBER 8, 1849
Encyclical of Pope leo XIII on Christian Democracy
January 18, 1901
Part of the 45 Goals of Communism
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
Lucis Trust - The Spiritual Foundation of the United Nations
UN Logo

33 Segments surrounded by sprigs of acacia
'Welcome to the United Nations. It's your World'...

By, Atrayu

The Spiritual Foundation of the United Nations

The Lucis Trust

UN Meditation Room The Lucis Trust is the Publishing House which prints and disseminates United Nations material. It is a devastating indictment of the New Age and Pagan nature of the UN. Lucis Trust was established in 1922 as Lucifer Trust by Alice Bailey as the publishing company to disseminate the books of Bailey and Blavatsky and the Theosophical Society. The title page of Alice Bailey's book, 'Initiation, Human and Solar' was originally printed in 1922, and clearly shows the publishing house as 'Lucifer Publishing CoIn 1923. Bailey changed the name to Lucis Trust, because Lucifer Trust revealed the true nature of the New Age Movement too clearly. (Constance Cumbey, The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow, p. 49). A quick trip to any New Age bookstore will reveal that many of the hard-core New Age books are published by Lucis Trust.

At one time, the Lucis Trust office in New York was located at 866 United Nations Plaza and is a member of the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations under a slick program called "World Goodwill". In an Alice Bailey book called "Education for a New Age"; she suggests that in the new age "World Citizenship should be the goal of the enlightened, with a world federation and a world brain." In other words - a One World Government New World Order.

Luci's Trust is sponsored by among others Robert McNamara, former minister of Defence in the USA, president of the World Bank, member of the Rockefeller Foundation, and Thomas Watson (IBM, former ambassador in Moscow). Luci's Trust sponsors among others the following organizations: UN, Greenpeace Int., Greenpeace USA, Amnesty Int. and UNICEF.

The United Nations has long been one of the foremost world harbingers for the "New Spirituality" and the gathering "New World Order" based on ancient occult and freemasonic principles. Seven years after the birth of the UN, a book was published by the theosophist and founder of the Lucis Trust, Alice Bailey, claiming that "Evidence of the growth of the human intellect along the needed receptive lines [for the preparation of the New Age] can be seen in the "planning" of various nations and in the efforts of the United Nations to formulate a world plan... From the very start of this unfoldment, three occult factors have governed the development of all these plans". [Alice B. Bailey, Discipleship in the New Age (Lucis Press, 1955), Vol. II, p.35.]

Although she did not spell out clearly the identity of these 'three occult factors', she did reveal to her students that "Within the United Nations is the germ and seed of a great international and meditating, reflective group - a group of thinking and informed men and women in whose hands lies the destiny of humanity. This is largely under the control of many fourth ray disciples, if you could but realise it, and their point of meditative focus is the intuitional or Buddhic plane - the plane upon which all hierarchical activity is today to be found'. [Ibid. p.220.]

To this end, the Lucis Trust, under the leadership of Foster and Alice Bailey, started a group called 'World Goodwill' - an official non-governmental organization within the United Nations. The stated aim of this group is "to cooperate in the world of preparation for the reappearance of the Christ" [One Earth, the magazine of the Findhorn Foundation, October/November 1986, Vol. 6, Issue 6, p.24.]

But the esoteric work inside the UN does not stop with such recognized occult groupings. Much of the impetus for this process was initiated through the officership of two Secretary-Generals of the UN, Dag Hammarskjöld (held office: 1953-1961) and U Thant (held office: 1961-1971) who succeeded him, and one Assistant Secretary-general, Dr. Robert Muller. In a book written to celebrate the philosophy of Teilhard de Chardin (and edited by Robert Muller), it is revealed "Dag Hammarskjöld, the rational Nordic economist, had ended up as a mystic. He too held at the end of his life that spirituality was the ultimate key to our earthly fate in time and space". [Robert Muller (ed.), The Desire to be Human: A Global Reconnaissance of Human Perspectives in an Age of Transformation (Miranana, 1983), p.304.]

Sri Chinmoy, the New Age guru, meditation leader at the UN, wrote: "the United Nations is the chosen instrument of God; to be a chosen instrument means to be a divine messenger carrying the banner of God's inner vision and outer manifestation."

William Jasper, author of "A New World Religion" describes the religion of the UN: "...a weird and diabolical convergence of New Age mysticism, pantheism, aboriginal animism atheism, communism, socialism, Luciferian occultism, apostate Christianity, Islam, Taoism, Buddhism, and Hinduism".

You can find out much more about them and how they're involved with the work of the United Nations by following their link "World Goodwill" at the top of their home page.

The Aquarian Age Community

This Website is sponsored by the United Nations and the whole NWO philosophy is there. The page which explains the work of the Aquarian Age Community, as they call themselves, has this proud quote at the header of their page at

Such a grandeur is ahead!
Such a great step awaits a fiery affirmation.
Our teaching and the affirmation of the Higher
Principles will reveal so much that is great to humanity!
A great period is drawing near: Thus we do create together.

Fiery World
Vol. III, par. 149

Amongst the many 'enlightening' pages in this website, you can easily find 'fascinating' articles entitled:

"The New World Order and the Work of the UN"

"The World Spiritual Teacher, the Esoteric Community and the United Nations"

Preparing the Way for the Reappearance of the World Spiritual Teacher, the Work of the United Nations and the World-Wide Esoteric Community and many more articles.

This is not Christian theology but New Age paganism. You can also read the NWO quotes I posted, further down this page. Here's another by Curtis Dall, FD Roosevelt's son in law as quoted in his book, My Exploited Father in Law:

"For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But, he didn't. Most of his thoughts, his political ammunition, as it were, were carefully manufactured for him in advanced by the Council on Foreign Relations One World Money group... Brilliantly, with great gusto, like a fine piece of artillery, he exploded that prepared "ammunition" in the middle of an unsuspecting target, the American people, and thus paid off and returned his internationalist political support.

The UN is but a long range, international banking apparatus nearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One World Revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power.

The depression was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market... The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank."


Under the U.N. Gavel
By Sen. Larry E. Craig, R-ID 

At its founding, the mission of the United Nations, as stated in its charter, was "to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war." It made no claim to supersede the sovereignty of its member states. Article 2 says that the United Nations "is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members," and it may not "intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state."

Since then, the United Nations has turned the principle of national sovereignty on its head. Through a host of conventions, treaties and conferences, it has intruded into regulation of resources and the economy (for example, treaties on "biological diversity," marine resources and climate change) and family life (hyping phoney liberalism while masculinity is scorned and western manhood is amputated - causing untold grief to the family unit) (conventions on parent-child relations and women in society). It has demanded that countries institute racial quotas and laws against hate crimes and speech (while the U.N. itself can jail someone for 30 years without trial). Recently the United Nations tried to undermine Americans' constitutional right to keep and bear arms (with proposed restrictions on the international sale of small arms).

Fortunately, many of these have been dead on arrival in the U.S. Senate, successive presidents have refused to endorse others, and in any case the United Nations had little power of enforcement. But in 1998, one mechanism of global government (there it is in the Washington Post folks) came to life with the so-called "Rome Statute" establishing a permanent International Criminal Court (and abolishing the Magna Carta in Britain). Once this treaty is ratified by 60 countries, the United Nations will wield judicial power over every individual human being -- even over citizens of countries that haven't joined the court.

While the court's stated mission is dealing with war crimes and crimes against humanity (what about their own crimes against humanity when they committed widespread genocide in the Balkans and East Timor? Dare I say they are hypocrites?) -- which, because there is no appeal from its decisions, only the court will have the right to define -- its mandate could be broadened later. Based on existing U.N. tribunals for Yugoslavia and Rwanda, which are models for the International Criminal Court, defendants will have none of the due process rights afforded by the U.S. Constitution, such as trial by jury, confrontation of witnesses or a speedy and public trial (that's a communist court system!).

President Clinton signed the Rome treaty last year, citing U.S. support for existing U.N. war crimes tribunals. Many suppose the court will target only a Slobodan Milosevic or the perpetrators of massacres in Rwanda, or dictators like Iraq's Saddam Hussein. But who knows? To some people, Augusto Pinochet is the man who saved Chile from communism; to others he is a murderer. Who should judge him -- the United Nations or the Chilean people?

In dozens of countries, governments use brutal force against insurgents. Should the United Nations decide whether leaders in Turkey or India should be put in the defendants' dock, and then commit the United States to bring them there? How about Russia's Vladimir Putin, for Chechnya? Or Israel's Ariel Sharon? Can we trust the United Nations with that decision (the more evil these premieres are - the more the U.N. loves them)?

The court's critics rightly cite the danger to U.S. military personnel deployed abroad. Since even one death can be a war crime, a U.S. soldier could be indicted just for doing his duty. But the International Criminal Court also would apply to acts "committed" by any American here at home. The European Union and U.S. domestic opponents consider the death penalty "discriminatory" and "inhumane." Could an American governor face indictment by the court for "crimes against humanity" for signing a death warrant?

Milosevic was delivered to a U.N. court (largely at U.S. insistence) for offences occurring entirely within his own country. Some say the Milosevic precedent doesn't threaten Americans, because the U.S. Constitution protects them. But for Milosevic, we demanded that the Yugoslav Constitution be trashed and the United Nations' authority prevail. Why should the International Criminal Court treat our Constitution any better (they're already destroying the 2nd amendment with their gun grab and the 1st with their phoney 'hate crime' nonsense)?

Instead of trying to "fix" the Rome treaty, the United States must recognize that it is a fundamental threat to American sovereignty. The State Department's participation in the court's preparatory commission is counterproductive. We need to make it clear that we consider the court an illegitimate body, that the United States will never join it and that we will never accept its "jurisdiction" over any U.S. citizen or help to impose it on other countries.

266 posted on 03/02/2003 8:19:55 PM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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267 posted on 05/09/2003 7:42:19 PM PDT by narses (Christe Eleison)
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I read a book on this very subject about 9 years ago. It was a warning about this very thing. Can't remember the name of it. It was written in the 70's I believe.
268 posted on 05/10/2003 7:37:02 AM PDT by sneakers
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I would say the Communists infiltrated the Church, as they did a lot of institutions. I don't see why the Church would be spared.
274 posted on 05/11/2003 7:30:26 AM PDT by Conservative til I die (They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
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