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Boston Archdiocese Considers Bankruptcy in Face of Lawsuits
Fox News ^ | Friday, August 09, 2002 | AP

Posted on 08/10/2002 9:34:24 AM PDT by Land of the Irish

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:34:25 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

BOSTON The Boston Archdiocese is considering bankruptcy as it faces potentially crippling financial settlements with victims of priest sex abuse -- an option experts say could produce more bad publicity than it's worth.

Such a move would also put the Roman Catholic Church in the position of giving control over some of its finances to a secular bankruptcy court.


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KEYWORDS: cardinallaw; catholicchurch; catholiclist; homosexuals
"By their fruits, you shall know them."
1 posted on 08/10/2002 9:34:24 AM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish
BTTT. No comment at this time.
2 posted on 08/10/2002 9:41:54 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: Land of the Irish
See http://www.veil-of-innocence.org/directory.htm for other issues facing Boston's Catholic schools.
3 posted on 08/10/2002 9:49:56 AM PDT by narses
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To: *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; goldenstategirl; ...
See http://www.veil-of-innocence.org/directory.htm for other issues facing Boston's Catholic schools.
4 posted on 08/10/2002 9:50:47 AM PDT by narses
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To: Land of the Irish
Why are these dioceses bowing to extortion? I guess because I'm in one of the few with an endowment, the principle collected years ago, I have little sympathy for the ones that are going to bankrupt themselves in a CYA move.

I'm getting really tired of everything coming down to money. Nothing can compensate for the pain.
5 posted on 08/10/2002 4:14:41 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona
I'm getting really tired of everything coming down to money. Nothing can compensate for the pain.

It wouldn't be coming down to money if the bishops had treated victims like wronged human beings and offered to help them instead of calling them liars and sicking trial lawyers on them in an effort to shut them up.

Or, worse, lying to them about taking the offending priests out of parishes and, instead, transferring them to prey on other victims.

You may as well prepare yourself, because this is going to get a lot worse.

6 posted on 08/10/2002 5:02:53 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
You may as well prepare yourself, because this is going to get a lot worse.

Yes,yes,yes,you keep saying that.Fess up! What do you know an when did you know it?

7 posted on 08/10/2002 5:12:12 PM PDT by Codie
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To: sinkspur
"You may as well prepare yourself, because this is going to get a lot worse."

I think you are correct. I read something about a RICO suit out in LA. All in all, I would be grateful for an impoverished Church at this point as those who aren't duplicitous in the clergy will stay. One of the best Masses I ever went to was in Church with a dirt floor.
8 posted on 08/10/2002 5:40:51 PM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: one_particular_harbour
What's your solution to this problem?
10 posted on 08/10/2002 6:03:10 PM PDT by Codie
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To: one_particular_harbour
What will fill the void? Be careful what you wish for.
12 posted on 08/10/2002 6:15:29 PM PDT by Codie
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To: one_particular_harbour
An Orthodox Jimmy Buffett fan... interesting combo.
14 posted on 08/10/2002 6:23:32 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: one_particular_harbour
You could be Protestant today,why aren't you?
16 posted on 08/10/2002 6:55:05 PM PDT by Codie
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To: one_particular_harbour; sinkspur
Ever deepening in your dedicated anti-Catholic bigotry, as is plain to see. There is no anti-Catholic bigot like an ex-Catholic who couldn't make the grade and who becomes such a bigot. Someday, perhaps, we will hear your actual agenda which is suggested by your impertinent last sentence.

That is Pope John Paul II to you, counselor, and to history to which he has made far greater contributions on his least efficient day than will ever be made in a lifetime by his petty critic from the bowels of the Louisville court system.

Mr. Wojtlywa was his father, Dr. Wojtlywa was his brother. Both are long dead. This pope hasn't been properly known as Mr. Wojtlywa since his ordination 56 years ago. You can also keep a civil tongue in your head. I have yet to see one insulting remark directed on Free Republic by any Catholic toward the leaders of what you claim to be your new religion. Nor one by Eastern Orthodox posters directed at Catholic leaders.

JPII has no obligation to publicly entertain the likes of you. He will run the Church as he sees fit without the advice of hostile buttinskies like you, thank you very much. Whether that meets the guidelines imposed by your ignorance is of no consequence whatsoever.

You did not have the backbone to live in the Faith of your ancestors and you obviously resent those who do. At least you did have the integrity to leave unlike many. Jealousy will get you nowhere. Go drown in Margaritas or at least soak your head.

Sinkspur and a few others may encourage you with Kumbayas and warm touchy-feelies over the way poor OPH has had his feelings abused by those nasty doctrinaire Catholic meanies. You are not likely to experience that treatment from anyone with the truth of the Faith. AmChurch is not Catholicism.

In your lawyer's rationale, being abused by enemies of the Faith becomes your excuse for becoming an enemy of the Faith.

Of course, you also persist in the delusion that your opinion counts. I will be back later after Mass and visiting. Rave on. Your every post stirs the resolve of those you despise.

Was the first sentence of your post meant to be its title?

17 posted on 08/11/2002 6:37:08 AM PDT by BlackElk
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To: BlackElk
Thank you and God bless.
18 posted on 08/11/2002 7:00:50 AM PDT by Sock
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To: BlackElk
His disrespect says more about him and Orthodoxy than the 82-year-old Bishop of Rome.

Interesting, in a disgusting way, isn’t it? The non Catholic Christians and the schismatic Catholics have the common courtesy to show “some” respect for this man of God, but the Orthodox wing nuts who post here are unable to contain their visceral hatred for the man. You are not born to hate; it must be taught. And, it’s usually taught by example.

Athens-2001

19 posted on 08/11/2002 7:13:11 AM PDT by Sock
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To: BlackElk
Sinkspur and a few others may encourage you with Kumbayas and warm touchy-feelies over the way poor OPH has had his feelings abused by those nasty doctrinaire Catholic meanies. You are not likely to experience that treatment from anyone with the truth of the Faith. AmChurch is not Catholicism.

"Feelings abused?" OPH was a victim of one of these pederast priests, and of the diocese in which this criminal resided.

You absent yourself from FR for awhile, then come roaring back like a Viagraed brahma bull, hurling epithets and condemnations.

I really don't know why Bob Bennett or Leon Panetta were chosen for the Review Board, but I'm willing to give them a chance. Keating, a conservative Catholic who refused a plea from JPII to spare a death-penalty convict last year, is already getting blasted by Law's PILOT and the bizarrely-named Eusebius Beltran, Keating's own archbishop in Oklahoma City, for daring to advocate that Catholics boycott the pews and the collection plates of dioceses whose hierarchs don't follow the zero-tolerance policy. I'd think you'd be delighted that a high-profile layman like Keating is going head-to-head with the head offender in America, Bernard Law. I damn sure am.

21 posted on 08/11/2002 3:04:33 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur; one_particular_harbour
If I come roaring back, it is in favor of Catholicism and not to undermine it. VOTF, the National Catholic Reporter, and their ilk can go straight to a more disappointing place than purgatory along with their supporters in Catholic clothing. You seem very little concerned at Planned Parenthood/SIECUS speakers, apostate priests like the execrable James Carroll and the like being involved in VOTF or their naked attempt to filch Church donations by lying to the public claiming that they are not the leftist termites and apostates that they clearly are. You are very good at hurling anathemas at even diocesan approved Tridentine Masses and their attendees because it is inconsistent with the dead dream of the aging Call to (Anti-Catholic) Action crowd.

When you are as good at smacking James Carroll, Hans Kung, Rembert Weakland (for his hideous non-sexual conduct of his archdiocese and suppression of Catholicism as much as for his expectable side hobby of diddling or being diddled by young men on the side while nakedly defying Vatican orders as to the destruction of Milwaukee's cathedral), or the late and unlamented Joseph Cardinal Bernardin (with his instruction for music from the Windy City GAY men's Chorus at his funeral) or Archbishop Pilarczyk or the other AmChurch trash that have been ruining Catholic institutions here for more than a generation, then your maudlin Kumbaya sympathy for parochial schoolmarms who defy actually Catholic prelates and warm Kumbayas for anti-Catholic bigots like OPH may carry a bit more weight. As it is, your selective complaints usually confined to the more conservative prelates such as Law (who certainly needs nuking) ring rather hollow and appear to be nothing more than a somewhat more sophisticated support for the further destruction of the Church in our country than OPH is capable of.

BTW, Law is a major offender but, as you well know, he has had lots and lots of competition. OPH, if he was a victim, and he will have the opportunity to prove it in a court of law, was victimized a very long time ago, probably said nothing whatsoever at the time or for decades later and now jumps on the money bandwagon. In the AmChurch Archdiocese of Louisville, complete with collective confession services and Heinz 57 varieties of heresy infecting its hierarchy, AmChurch will be found responsible and he will collect unless the courts toss the case for reasons of statutes of limitations. The alleged perv is probably dead by now and even scum like those who run the Louisville Archdiocese are entitled to due process of law.

As to the details of OPH's complaint, I have never asked nor have I heard. How do you know so much? Who was the criminal? What was the crime? How do you know? What EVIDENCE have you seen? Given the poisonous Anti-Catholic bigotry which OPH regularly posts and your modernist AmChurch enthusiasm for it, on what does your credibility or OPH's rest as to OPH's alleged experiences? He told you privately and you believe him. What reason would he, as an attorney and as a plaintiff in a suit seeking big bucks for grievances ancient if truthful at all, have to lie?

Bob Bennett and Leon Panetta, having been close to the offal office during the reign of the Arkansas Antichrist, have been, well, desensitized to offenses which, after all, are ONLY ABOUT SEX. Either one would look pretty ludicrous getting worked up over AmChurch misconduct. They are there to protect the clerical miscreants as they have the presidential one. If Keating is calling for boycotts of the Catholic obligation to contribute to the support of the Church, then he should apologize to Archbishop Eusebius Beltran who I believe is named not bizarrely (just what that would have to do with anything I cannot imagine) but after St. Eusebius. Roger Cardinal Mahoney, William Cardinal Keeler and Bishop Anthony Pilla are conventionally named but, given their proclivities for unusual religious views off the left edge of the earth,I would gladly prefer Archbishop Eusebius Beltran as my ordinary from what little you have posted. Further, Governor Keating who knows a thing or two about collecting or he would be Attorney General today, ought to remember that, committee or no committee, he is under the authority of the ordinary of his diocese. It is NOT a democracy and NEVER will be.

I am never glad to see sin advocated by any Catholic any more than I am glad to see the scandalous misbehavior of the likes of Law or Hans Kung, or Charles Curran or Richard McBrien or Rectalbert or the National "Catholic" Reporter or whatever. What does Viagra have to do with this controversy?

Finally, that Keating is a conservative Republican does not necessarily make him a conservative Catholic especially when he advocates publicly that Catholics sin by disobeying one of the six commandments of the Church.

24 posted on 08/12/2002 5:17:29 PM PDT by BlackElk
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To: Sock; one_particular_harbour
Let's be fair to the Orthodox. Neither OPH nor a handful of other bitter posters here are very representative of the Orthodox Church, its leaders or its members. There is really only a smidgen of difference theologically and they have done a very good job of preserving the ancient truths of the Church. OPH even sees Kentucky as part of the South though it is not one of the eleven. If he can't handle recent history, he is probably really ignorant of thousand year old history. He is certainly ignorant of Catholicism and of Pope John Paul II. In his bigotry, he will no doubt inspire Catholics to redouble their efforts, not because he is Orthodox, if he is, but because he is sooooo obnoxious in his hatred of all things Catholic. We do not lament his loss from Rome but should have sympathy for those Godly Orthodox whose reputations he is diminishing with each passing post. OPH is not their fault.
25 posted on 08/12/2002 5:27:37 PM PDT by BlackElk
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