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To: RnMomof7
Calvinists knew that 9/11 would make no lasting change in "born again " numbers. God has written in His Book of Life the names of those that will come..and they will come when He decides

Is this supposed to sound as fatalistic as it sounds? This is why Calvinism is just so darn depressing.

Read this quote and weep for the church

He gives pastors insight, not only into the effectiveness of the church, but with trends in society that help the pastors with their strategic planning."

Jesus was a terrible failure by Barna standards..we are told that as he taught many turned and walked away...and then to top it off they were the ones..the ones healed and taught ..the ones that welcomed him as King on Palm Sunday that yelled "crucify him!"

Quite cynical as well. My Bible has the parable of the talents, and a pastor who fails to "plan" for the future plans to fail.

SD

100 posted on 09/30/2002 2:25:18 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Dave that parable is about spiritual gifts..it is not a passage for Pastors it is for me.

Is a Pastor to be responsible in his ministry yes ..but he is to remember the words of Jesus that HE will build HIS church..not the feeble attempts of men...

You can call it cynical but we were right were we not ? All that "Ohmygod the world is ending" running to god stopped when they realized they would live, didn't it?? SD...no man seeks after God...no not one. God is a lucky charm to carnal man nothing more

And yea the truth is often depressing to men

101 posted on 09/30/2002 2:35:14 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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