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To: RnMomof7; ReformedBeckite
We would agree with that Jael..but would ask who will come? We say only those drawn by the Father.

John 12:32  And I, if I be lifted up from the earth,
will draw all men unto me.
~Jesus

Acts 1:8  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9  And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10  And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11  Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Romans 5:18  Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;
even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

1 Timothy 2:1  ¶I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2  For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3  For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4  Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5  For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
6  Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Do all men believe? No. Does Christ offer the same salvation to all men? Yes.

John 3:19  And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

John 15:22  If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.

55 posted on 12/31/2002 1:43:49 PM PST by Jael
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To: Jael; RnMomof7; the_doc
Do all men believe? No. Does Christ offer the same salvation to all men? Yes.

As every Calvinist believes.

56 posted on 12/31/2002 1:48:11 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: Jael
Jael if ALL (meaning all of every kind and sort) are drawn is God hapless and unable to do as He wills?
58 posted on 12/31/2002 1:52:10 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Jael
Running through the concordance the words 'all' and posting isn't exactly going to convince anybody. You are ignoring context as well.
77 posted on 12/31/2002 2:07:59 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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