[Coleus]

ping

[APBaer]

Q: "What are the necessary conditions for to justly go to war? "

A: First thou shall try to bring together, to conciliate,and to mend:
and you should start with you own split infinitives

[RobbyS]

as long as the danger of war persists and there is no international authority with the necessary competence and power, governments cannot be denied the right of lawful self-defense, once all peace efforts have failed."10

To me this is key.

[Coleus]

ping

[Salvation]

Great poll! BTTT!

[RobbyS]

Those who put St. Augustine's theory forward for get that it makes no sense divorced from the events of his life. The began his Christian career as the philospher, attermyping to persuade the Donatists of North Africa to return to the Church. But the Donatists were lined with the Circumcellions, Punic-Africans who opposed Rome and all its ways. Finally he gave up on persuasion and invoked Roman coersion. Reason is not match for the unharnessed human will.

[ponyespresso]

I have one question though...

IF one person has caused the death of many and has the very real potential to continue to cause the death of many more...

And IF there is a perceived lack of willingness to effectively deal with this threat by major governing bodies whose indecision and appeasement only continue to put more innocent lives at risk...

then

would these be accpeptable, morally legitimate conditions to shoot an abortion doctor?

[Coleus]

In the past 16 months. . .
(Each + represents 8,000 human lives)Capital Punishment killed 98 Americans .
War in Iraq killed 100,000 people + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Abortionists murdered 1,750,656 American infants + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
"The common outcry, which is justly made on behalf of human rights -- for example, the right to health, to home, to work, to family, to culture -- is false and illusory if the right to life is not defended with maximum determination." -- Pope John Paul II

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