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JESUS is not a Pacifist.
the Baptist Corpsman | 20 may 03 | By Darren Morrison

Posted on 05/29/2003 11:07:08 AM PDT by RMrattlesnake

JESUS is not a Pacifist.

By Darren Morrison

The Jesus of the Bible, the one that the four gospels are about, the very one the Bible testifies about, was not a pacifist. The ultra liberal churches like the Unitarians and Quakers tout Jesus as being some feminine pacifist. The ultra liberal so-called churches make Jesus in the image they want regardless of what the bible teaches. To them Jesus was just a happy go lucky hippie, hardly anything holy in that. How can we tell how Jesus is and was? By careful examination of his perfect word. The very same so-called churches that say JESUS was a pacifist would let Muslim clerics speak from their pulpit, I guarantee the Muslims will not offer them the same. They will ordain Homosexuals and marry them regardless of the word of GOD. They want JESUS to be who they want Him to be because thay want to serve themselves and try to feel good about it.

Let’s look at the actions of our Lord and savior. Matthew 21:12. And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 13. And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves. Jesus overturned the tables; that is an act of violence. He threw people out of the temple. You see my Lord and savior is not a feminized man like you see among the pacifists. Here is what that story would sound like coming from a Unitarian person. “Jesus strolled into the temple and kindly asked them that sold and bought to stop it, Then he pointed out to them that money changing was not cool man, then he said hey be cool guys we don’t want you to turn my pad into a den of thieves or something”. Sorry for that blasphemous quote but it is to prove a point.

Here is another point that will testify that my Lord and Saviour was not a pacifist. A true pacifist would never own any kind of weapon. Pacifists are anti-gun all the way. They would not even own a knife unless it was for cutting vegetables or as decorations in their house. Luke 22:36. Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. These are the very words of Jesus and it is clear to me he is telling his apostles to buy a sword. In today’s world that would be the same as saying to buy a gun, and so I have a .357 so I can protect my family like a good Christian leader of his home should do. There are those who cannot legally own a gun and they should follow the law, even if the law is unjust. What would a Pacifist Jesus do, well he would tell them to sell their cloak and buy a t-shirt that said all we need is love. There is quite a contrast between a Biblical Jesus and a Pacifist Jesus.

Did Jesus come to teach us about peace? Did he come to bring about world peace? Then answer is no. Jesus is the prince of peace but did not come to bring the type of peace the pacifists talk about. Matthew 10:34. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. You see the pacifist believe in worldly peace, Jesus is the prince of peace this is a fact. But he is not the prince of worldly peace. John 14:27. Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. That is inner peace, where you know for sure that you will go to heaven when you die. That peace comes only from GOD and it wells up inside your soul. You see, before I was saved I had an emptiness inside a void I could not fill. Jesus filled that void with his peace. But people who live after the lust of the world like the so-called pacifists do. They have no inner peace, so they lash out at the world and hold up peace signs.

Now understand this, Jesus is for self-defense but he is against revenge. Romans 12:19. Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. We as true Christians are not to take revenge; our Lord Jesus will take his revenge out on the wicked. Now if someone threatens you it is not a sin to protect yourself and in fact it is down right biblical, but if someone hurts you or someone else it is not right to go after him or her after the fact. If some dope smoker came after my wife or kids I would not hesitate to shoot him dead. I will protect whenever possible, but I will never ever take out revenge on anyone. I will however delight in the Lord’s revenge. Let Jesus take out revenge, 2 Thessalonians1: 7. And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8. In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9. Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;. You see those who do not follow Jesus will be like most of the left- wingers out there. Jesus will take violent actions against them. What will I be doing when Jesus takes revenge on those in false religions, drug users, whores, abortion supporters, Marxists and other evil folks? Psalms 58:10. The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.

Many of our hippie pacifists are vegans as well. Not all of them but a majority of them claim to be. A vegan is a person who thanks it is unrighteous to eat meat. I have seen on the P.E.T.A. web site they claim Jesus was a vegan. Well Jesus ate the Passover and that meal consisted of lamb. He served fish on two occasions. In Genesis 4 we read that Cain offered an unacceptable sacrifice he brought a vegan sacrifice of fruit, vegetables and grains. Able, the more Godly of the two, killed one of his flock, a fatted lamb. He killed a lamb for GOD and GOD was pleased. Those who follow the word of GOD cannot find any biblical grounds for vegans. Now if you feel healthier not eating meat go right ahead, be my guest. I have tried a vegetarian diet and it did not work out for me, my body demands more protein. It is not a sin to kill any animals for food, for leather or fur, for pest control or to benefit medical science. “Thou shalt not kill.” applies to murder like what Cain the vegan did to his brother Able. Meat is not murder.

There will always be wars for one reason, because of sin. Sometimes good people have to war with evil people. Communism is a threat to all Christians. More Christians have died at the hands of Marxists than anyone else even Catholics and Muslims. Christians have always been persecuted. So when communism threatens our way of life it is justice to destroy it. Hitler was a national socialist, which is just another brand of Marxism. He was also a threat to the Christian way of life. He had the backing of several dead denominations, but they were not followers of Jesus to begin with. Even the Vatican turned a blind eye to Hitler’s reign. But it was justice for Christians to fight against such evil. The Muslims kill Christians over in the Middle East and anywhere else they can get away with it. Besides the fact that State sponsored terrorism is a threat to us and needs to be taken care of as soon as possible, regardless of the U.N.

Bad things happen when good people do nothing. Most of the so-called pacifists out there are not good people anyway. I am talking about Christians, those who support a country that gives us religious freedom. America still sends out more missionaries than any other country in the world and though it is becoming less and less of a Christian country every year at least we can still fight for freedom and liberty. God bless our Soldiers, Airmen, Sailors and Marines who are willing to fight for what is right. They are the peacemakers. 1 Timothy 6:12. Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses. We as Christians are to witness for the Lord Jesus, but if we are in bondage to tyrants how can we? That is why it is justice to rid the world of tyrants like King George, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Chairman Mao, Pol Pot, Ernesto Che Guevara and Saddam Hussein.

Ask those so-called pacifists what they think of abortion and most of them will say it is a woman’s right to choose, but they don’t want a war to stop an evil tyrant who wants to destroy Israel and the United States. You see they think it is okay to commit infanticide on unborn babies, the most innocent of human beings are being butchered and the pacifists couldn’t care less. If those so-called pacifists had respect for life then they would be in front of Planned Parenthood with their signs demanding an end to violence. Isaiah 5:20. Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Jesus was not a Pacifist and neither am I. Jesus is the lamb, Revelations 6:16. And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17. For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? The Lamb is Jesus and the wrath of the lamb is the wrath of Jesus. Well there is no wrath of a pacifist so by this very verse there is no way possible that Jesus can be a pacifist. Those who serve self instead of God will suffer, Revelation 15:1. And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. The righteous will not suffer the wrath of our Lord. Proverbs 11:23. The desire of the righteous is only good: but the expectation of the wicked is wrath. Those who commit sin after sin and refuse to repent of those sins and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ will get to see first hand how much of a pacifist the Lord is.

Most of the so-called pacifists do not believe in Hell. They don’t want to believe because they don’t want condemnation. But I am here to tell you; Hell is a very real place. Satan is not a ruler over Hell he is an inmate of hell. If you are one who refuses Christ you will burn with him. Matthew 10:28. And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Hell is a horrible place Mark 9:46. Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. A fire that is not quenched. Where is the source of this fire? Hebrews 12:29. For our God is a consuming fire. The fire of GOD will burn the unrepentant. Those who rebel against GOD’s will feel his burn. A Pacifist Jesus would never send some one to HELL.

Many of these so-called pacifists want to make all religions as one They want to combine Islam, Buddhism, Hindu and so on. They want to believe that all religions must be tolerant when none of them are but the only religion thay want to force to be tolerant is Christianity. They hate fundamental Christians with a passion. Funny how they hate us under the disguise of toleration and diversity. There is only one way to salvation and it is not from any Krishna, Buddha, Mohammad, Baha’u’llah or any other false messiah. No Jesus is the only one. Ephesians 4:5. One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6. One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. There is only one way to the father that way is though Jesus not the Jesus of the false churches like Quakers and Unitarians who believe and teach that Jesus was a feminized pacifist. No the real Jesus is the one who stood for the truth and will destroy the wicked. John 14:6. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


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1 posted on 05/29/2003 11:07:08 AM PDT by RMrattlesnake
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To: RMrattlesnake
Bump for a later read
2 posted on 05/29/2003 11:25:02 AM PDT by Gamecock (TULIP? For the Bible told me so...)
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To: RMrattlesnake
read later
3 posted on 05/29/2003 12:49:19 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: RMrattlesnake
More Christians have died at the hands of Marxists than anyone else even Catholics and Muslims.

I'm not a Catholic myself and I'm certainly no expert, but I consider the implication the Catholics are not Christian by naming the two separately to be inaccurate at best.

4 posted on 05/29/2003 3:57:25 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: RMrattlesnake
Incessant Thread Generation Alert !!!! Come Back GRANT SWANK !!!!!!!
5 posted on 05/29/2003 4:28:54 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: Gamecock
***Many of our hippie pacifists are vegans as well.***

Hippies, Pacifists & Vegans

Oh MY!

6 posted on 05/29/2003 4:31:22 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: RMrattlesnake
Revelation 19:11-21
7 posted on 05/29/2003 6:30:15 PM PDT by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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To: editor-surveyor; fortheDeclaration; maestro; Con X-Poser; ksen
Contend For The Faith Ping!
8 posted on 05/29/2003 6:36:46 PM PDT by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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To: nosofar
I'm not a Catholic myself and I'm certainly no expert, but I consider the implication the Catholics are not Christian by naming the two separately to be inaccurate at best.

I don't no what's up with that, but I've asked some people if they are Christian and they respond with, "No, I'm Catholic." Go fiqure....

9 posted on 05/29/2003 7:22:49 PM PDT by Gamecock (TULIP? For the Bible told me so...)
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To: drstevej
Did you say hippies?


10 posted on 05/29/2003 7:27:34 PM PDT by Gamecock (TULIP? For the Bible told me so...)
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To: nosofar
Although I agree with the vast majority of what the author has to say, I like you would have a hard time classifying Catholics as "Non-Christian" I may have some serious differences in some of their theology. but then again that may not be what the author means he may be pointing out that more Christians have probably be killed by "so called Christians" than any sworn enemy ever could
11 posted on 05/30/2003 5:13:37 AM PDT by Texas Patriot (Praise the Lord and pass the Ammo!!!!!)
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To: nosofar
Hmmm, to help substantiate. (Dons on flame retardant clothing) Catholics can be christians, however the Catholic Doctrine isn't Christian...To be a Christian, all you have to do is have Faith in Christ ALONE. That means Jesus' death on the cross was the FINAL sacrifice for sin. It is faith and not of works that will get you into heaven. Catholic doctrine dictates YOU must pay for your sins (purgatory) and that YOU must appease an angry god by pennance. Repentance is not pennance. Catholic Doctrine also teaches idol worship in the form of the Eucharist (not in the bible) and Mary Worship. There is more,but too much to go on in here.
12 posted on 05/30/2003 10:44:12 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Private First Class - 101st Viking Kittie Airborne....Valhalla...All the Way!)
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To: Gamecock; drstevej; Revelation 911
A vegan is a person who thanks it is unrighteous to eat meat.

One should always give thanks for meat...

13 posted on 05/30/2003 11:18:31 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: Gamecock
I lost interest in this thing when the author denied Christianity to Catholics. Heretical protestants slaughtered Catholics; their seminal theoriticians burned Catholics in Geneva and other cities.
14 posted on 05/30/2003 6:29:49 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Yes, you must be right because Christianity was invented by Calvin (or was it Algore?) with knockoffs hastily marketed by Zwingli, et al
15 posted on 05/30/2003 6:32:42 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: ThanhPhero
Torquemada
16 posted on 05/30/2003 6:43:39 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
Torquemada was very small potatoes compared to what we have experienced in our time and was an agent of the Spanish king rather than of the Church. And the Church did not burn peole. The Church convicted people of heresy. The civil governments had laws against heresy with capital punishment prescribed as it was for many acts we might call trivial and it was thus in all jurisdictions at the time. The protestant rulers, especially the founders of their religions, took a personal hand in the burnings.
17 posted on 05/30/2003 6:50:09 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: ThanhPhero
***The protestant rulers, especially the founders of their religions, took a personal hand in the burnings.***

Piddle. Does the name Bloody Mary mean anything to ya?
18 posted on 05/30/2003 7:03:01 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: RMrattlesnake
It's funny that the author doesn't mention the Gospel supporting pacifism: "But I say to you, do not resist one who is evil, but if any many would strike you on your right cheek, offer to him your left; and if any man would take your cloak, offer to him your shirt as well." (Xy's Memory Version of something out of Matthew?)

Not that I'm a supporter of pacifism, over all, but if one takes the words of the Lord as He spoke them, it seems to be a legitimate position.
19 posted on 05/30/2003 7:34:06 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Visualize whirled peas ... It sure beats the alternative!)
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To: Tax-chick
Consider also that on more than one occasion, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ evaded those who sought Him to kill Him, not so much for pacifism, but out of obedience to the Father as His time had not yet come.

The Second Coming isn't going to be a time of pacifism.

I've found he Scripture speaks for itself and rather than relabeling Christ a a pacifist, simply consider the context of His statements, actions and target of His demonstrative actions, whether of worldly or fleshly action and/or influence upon spiritual faith and belief. A key is how to behave in our to fulfill the Great Commission.

In some cases, defend yourself, in others evade, in others witness and bear our own burdens/cross.

20 posted on 05/30/2003 8:45:38 PM PDT by Cvengr (0;^))
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