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Archbishop choice seen as imminent: Pittsburgh's bishop called top candidate
Boston Globe ^ | June 8, 2003 | Walter V. Robinson and Michael Rezendes

Posted on 06/08/2003 8:35:52 AM PDT by tridentine

The appointment of Boston's new archbishop is imminent, according to knowledgeable church officials, who said that Bishop Richard G. Lennon knows he is about to be replaced and the archdiocese has already identified at least three sites that may be used for the announcement.

In interviews last week, church officials said they believe that Pope John Paul II's choice to head the most troubled of American archdioceses is likely to be made public this month, with this Tuesday the earliest possible date.

And some church officials privy to internal discussions said they now believe that -- even if the decision has not been finalized -- the most likely choice is Bishop Donald W. Wuerl of Pittsburgh.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
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To: dsc
What does he need a pool at his house for? As an excuse to invite young boys over?

Maybe he does laps for exercise, and going to the Y would create even more controversy.

41 posted on 06/08/2003 9:03:13 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Maximilian
Depending on the neighborhood, this could be a very modest home.

While that is certainly true of the suburbs near NYC, the town he purchased this home in is closer to the PA border, which means he got more house for "his" money.

42 posted on 06/08/2003 9:05:10 PM PDT by ELS
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To: sinkspur
**Why are representatives of the One who had nowhere to lay His Head still living like royalty? My own bishop lives in a rented house and can put everything he owns in the trunk of his car.**

Good question! In fact, VERT good question!
43 posted on 06/08/2003 10:35:57 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sinkspur
Far as I know, the Y is still a public place. Is using the pool at the Y now considered proof of SSAD?
44 posted on 06/08/2003 10:36:47 PM PDT by dsc ("Holistic" is only part of a word.)
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To: Savonarola
Welcome to FR Religion Forum!
45 posted on 06/08/2003 10:37:36 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ELS

I find that hard to believe that Abp Myers, one of the most militant Bishops in the US on the issue of abortion is handing out with Gov. McGreevey. As the saying goes, where is the proof, where is the evidence. The rumor mill is not going to cut it. If they were at a function together, what was the context of their meeting. Again, rumors are just that, rumors, without context, or proof, rumors have no meaning. I know for a fact a few months ago, progressive Catholics in the Newark Archdiocese were making compalints that Abp Myers was starting to clamp down on progressives more, and he banned the hymn "sing a new church".
46 posted on 06/08/2003 10:40:45 PM PDT by JNB
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To: ninenot
i>"It's only frightening if you are in Pittsburgh."

Roman Catholics around the world suffer the embarrassment of having bishops and cardinals who choose to mock 1,900 years of sacred tradition in favor of pagan rituals and contemporary immorality. That a reprobate is located in North America or Africa is not relevant.

What is relevant is the passive endorcement the Vatican has provided red robes in two many places.

47 posted on 06/09/2003 2:43:27 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
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To: Savonarola
"The Roman Catholic Faithful" website has a lot of documented information about the Arlington diocese. I also had a relative indirectly involved in a particularly sordid incident there. That's as far as I can take it. All of this is a shame because Arlington's reputation as a solid orthodox diocese has been severly tarnished.
48 posted on 06/09/2003 5:58:52 AM PDT by k omalley
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Pray for Ma-phoney's conversion to Catholcism!

The Cardinal mahoney Love Network

49 posted on 06/09/2003 6:18:53 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Salvation; NWU Army ROTC
**I can think of a few dioceses that are probably in trouble.**

Thanks for noting Albany! The bishop's good buddy, Matthew Clark, should be on this list. He has wreckovated so many churches there!

Please add Diocese of Rochester

Given the importance of the Boston archdiocese -- it is the nation's fourth largest -- Boston's new archbishop would expect to become a cardinal

50 posted on 06/09/2003 6:23:34 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
Please add Diocese of Rochester

I was just going to comment that any list with Albany needs to have its twin sister Rochester on it as well.

SD

51 posted on 06/09/2003 6:53:05 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Polycarp
The frightening thing is that Bishop Adamec of Altoona-Johnstown is the senior PA bishop, and is rumored to be in line to take over Pittsburgh!

No, thank you.

SD

52 posted on 06/09/2003 6:56:58 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: k omalley
The Arlington reputation as "orthodox" seems to be stale. (Rose's complimentary comment is outdated.)
The current bishop, in place for four years, apppears at best to be an ecclesial careerist, craves (managed) publicity (i.e., no interviews), and has evidently mishandled the (pending?) Father Haley (whistleblower)case.
53 posted on 06/09/2003 6:59:20 AM PDT by Savonarola
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To: SoothingDave
Isn't it the Pope who ultimately decides who becomes the new archbishop or cardinal of different dioceses. Hopefully Ratzinger or Arinze will strongly recommed against that possibility. As much as I like Dolan, The Archbishop of Denver (forgot his name) and Fabian Bruskowitz have to be my favorite american prelates. Why can't they get them cardinal's hats.
54 posted on 06/09/2003 7:12:10 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: NWU Army ROTC
Isn't it the Pope who ultimately decides who becomes the new archbishop or cardinal of different dioceses.

Yes, but he is usually guided in this choice by the advice of the other bishops in the country. Which explains a lot of the bad seeds currently in office -- they brought all their friends in with them.

As much as I like Dolan, The Archbishop of Denver (forgot his name) and Fabian Bruskowitz have to be my favorite american prelates. Why can't they get them cardinal's hats.

Chaput. All in good time.

SD

55 posted on 06/09/2003 7:21:36 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: sinkspur
"As for Myers, it strikes me as very coincidental that, within three months of his appointment, the new Bishop (Jurasek)(?) all of sudden discovers three serious abuse cases, that Myers denied any knowledge of. Four others surfaced shortly thereafter."

Actually, there is nothing coincedental about it at all. Myers left our diocese in Sept. of 2001. In Jan. of 2002, the Boston Globe launched the series of articles which drew national attention to the scandal. At that point, the victims came forward.

Also, in each instance (with the exception of the one case I outlined before) the abuse took place years before Myers was appointed Bishop. It was the national attention, which even the victims admit, caused them to come forward. And they didn't come forward until after Myers had already left.

You are revealing yourself as a person of low character by your continued attempts to misrepresent the record of a very good bishop.

56 posted on 06/09/2003 7:22:56 AM PDT by AlguyA
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To: ELS; All
"I am sad to say that he has been seen hanging out with pro-choice "Catholic" governor of NJ, Jim McGreevey. I had high hopes for him, but actions speak louder than words..."

It is true Myers is not as confrontational as, say, a Brueskiwitz in Nebraska. He will "hang out" with guys like McGreevey -I suspect because he believes he should "be all things to all people" and that it is his job to primarily advance the causes of the Church. However, let me tell you what he will do.

Having established his bona fides as a "reasonable man," he will wait until a really high profile issue, a really important issue, requires he speak out. At that point he will act with swiftness and decisiveness. He is very shrewd. Perhaps shrewder than I would like him to be. But he is effective.

As far as "actions?" Let me tell you what you will experience. Sometime within the next few years, you will meet one of the vocations he has brought to your diocese. You will meet a priest who is quiet, well-grounded in the faith, adores Our Lord in the Eucharist and is fairly orthodox. A little while later, you'll meet another priest, and note he has the same qualities.

Then, one morning you'll arise from bed and discover Father Fool, the guy who used to always lead the anti-war marches and was continually agitating for women priests, has been afforded the opportunity to share his gifts with the good folks in Podunksville, pop. 58. You'll walk into your Chancery and notice the average age of the clerics running the place has dropped by about 15 years, they'll all look like kids to you. You'll visit your neighboring parishes and notice that, somehow, all the tabernachles have been placed back behind the altar.

And all of this will have been done without you hearing anything about it in the press -they'll be busy showing you the pictures of Myers "hanging out" with McGreevey, all the while hoping they've got him figured right.

Trust me, in a decade, your diocese will be a far better place than it is, today.

"A minor clarification from the trenches - Myers bought a home for $650,000 and then added an in ground swimming pool."

O.K., I'm going to take a very unpopular stand, here. But I'm glad Myers bought this house and I'm glad he put in a swimming pool if he believes it makes his life more comfortable.

So what if he did? He didn't take a vow of poverty. He's a secular priest. The Church doesn't require secular priests to live lives of poverty. Only the religious take that vow. If the Church has different sets of vows for different vocations, then it must be because She recognizes that God calls to His service men and women with different gifts, and different spiritualities.

Myers did much the same thing when he was appointed as our Bishop. The previous bishop had moved into a modest apartment and turned the Cathedral rectory over to offices.

When Myers moved in, he gutted and totally refurbished the place. It now looks great.

The press gave him a hard time about it, also. And the libs just loved running around talking about it. I, personally, had no problem with it. There's something almost Gnostic about the idea that Bishops MUST live as paupers. If they choose to do so, all well and good. But all I expect from a Bishop is that he remain true to the vows he took. And to my knowledge, Myers has remained impeccable to his vows.

Let me see if I can put this delicately. Secular priests do forgo the benefits associated with, uh, the Sacrament of Marriage. If they want a swimming pool when they become Bishop, I have no problem with this.

57 posted on 06/09/2003 8:05:24 AM PDT by AlguyA
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To: SoothingDave
I was just going to comment that any list with Albany needs to have its twin sister Rochester on it as well.


Tweedle-Dee


Tweedle-Dum

58 posted on 06/09/2003 8:53:48 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: Desdemona
NY's Cardinal O'connor was archbishop for the military ordinariate, as it is called.

The precedent is there.

59 posted on 06/09/2003 10:10:45 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Domestic Church
I expect the residence of a bishop to be nice and durable - not made of the same cheap stuff most houses are made of.

It needs to be large for housing important guests and hosting important functions.

It is no dofferent than a mayor, etc. having a very nice official residence.

60 posted on 06/09/2003 10:14:24 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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