Dancing Our Prayers Away?

TCR News ^ | June 2003 | Carrie Tomko

[southern_living]

No one was dancing at religious worship services within the temple area. David was dancing on his way through the city. Orthodox and traditional Catholics prefer reverent services that focus on God, not each other. For those who require more entertainment or a party atmosphere while worshiping the One, True God, there are many charismatic churches that offer various entertaining fare. If you'd like to point me in the direction of sources that can show that dancing has been an historical part of Christian worship (Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox) before the early 20th century America or even in Jewish synagogue worship, I'd really like to read up on it.

[Thorondir]

I'm beginning to think it stands for "Nervous Disorder".

[B Knotts]

Cleveland Bishop Anthony M. Pilla

I should have known.

[drstevej]

Here's an interesting link.

http://www.piney.com/CaneRidge1.html

[Thorondir]

One of the parishes in my diocese earned a full page spread in the diocesan newspaper, on how liturgical dance brought the youth back to mass! They are so excited about it that they now want to make videos to be distributed across the US!!

How proud these apostate devils are of the huge and lavish granaries they have filled with chaff for our Lord to winnow into everlasting fire at the end. It makes your heart sink, but must spur you on to fight their ugly modernistic filth at every turn.

[NYer]

Dear Steve,

Isaiah 53 is one of my most favorite passages from scripture ...

If he gives his life as an offering for sin, he shall see his descendants in a long life, and the will of the LORD shall be accomplished through him

How is it that so many, responsible for the souls of us mortals, can ignore this scriptural prophesy?!

the age when people are baptised is linked to their credible profession of faith in Christ.

In the catholic church, Confirmation "falls" between baptism and First Eucharist. Ostencibly, in order to receive Our Lord in the Eucharist, one has to be baptized and "reach the age of wisdom". When converts enter the church, they receive all 3 sacraments on the same night in that order. Depending on the situation, those already baptized are not re-baptized but are first confirmed before receiving the Eucharist.

I took no offense at your term "rant". That anyone would consider liturgical dance as even remotely meritorious of a place in our liturgy is far beyond my comprehension, based on my faith formation.

NYer - Centurion

[drstevej]

An Isaiah 53 thread...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/927817/posts

[NYer]

It makes your heart sink, but must spur you on to fight their ugly modernistic filth at every turn.

It does! But, like St. John the Baptist, I feel like "one voice crying in the wilderness."

[Hermann the Cherusker]

What the "modernists" want to do is apply that permission to western culture where 'dance' has a very different connotation.

We already have a liturgical dance in western culture. Its called the Solemn High Mass. No, its not "shake tha booty", but it certainly qualifies as "dance" in the sense of movements scripted to word and music.

This is what is truly blasphemous about the heretic innovators who wish to licentiously sexualize the liturgy into a Hootenanny.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

I'm beginning to think it stands for "Nervous Disorder".

Just remember to give credit where credit is due. I invented that term on the way to brunch with Fr. Ken Myers and another friend in 1996 after High Mass at St. Boniface in Pittsburgh.

[NYer]

Here's an interesting link.

Ahhhh, yes, but can you top this group? The remains of several of their settlements may be found right here in Albany, NY and across the river in MA.

THE SHAKERS who shook their way into extinction by not marrying.

[drstevej]

I am familiar with the Shakers. They should merger with the Quakers. The result?

Shake and Quake

[Corin Stormhands]

If you'd like to point me in the direction of sources that can show that dancing has been an historical part of Christian worship (Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox) before the early 20th century America or even in Jewish synagogue worship, I'd really like to read up on it.

Not that I want to carry on this conversation anymore, cause 1) I'm not Catholic and 2) my initial post that dragged me in here was tongue in cheek, but the one example that comes to mind are the Shakers.

And I happen to attend one of those charismatic churches. I can assure you that the worship is pure and holy as well as jubilant.

[Corin Stormhands]

Y'all beat me to it. I am familiar with the Shaker Village at Pleasant Hill, Kentucky.

[ninenot]

Actually, I prefer Britten's from the War Requiem--complete with passing-over shells, bombs, and that wondrous open-fourth chime which is literally chilling...but you need even more orchestra than the Verdi.

[ninenot]

We sing the Parce every Lent. Good for the soul.

Rather like the first offering.

[Thorondir]

Then God's blessings and all credit to you, my friend. The first time I saw that term I almost blew a mouthfull of water all over my keyboard.

Kudos!

Dominus vobiscum.

[ninenot]

Well, as an ICEL offering it fails because you used the term "Lord," which, of course, is sexist and class-ist.

But it's a rather good overall draft. Still a bit scary, and we all know better than THAT!!! So, polish off those nasty parts and make God bi-sexed. It'll be so much nicer, Fluffkins.