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Once the liturgical dance is accepted, the idea of performance at liturgy will become an element of ritual which will cause us to see the priest in a different light. He will become not "In Personna Christi" but rather the priest "performing" as the celebrant at Mass. He will also be evaluated by performance criteria just as the dancers will be evaluated.

This MUST be stopped .... NOW!!!

1 posted on 06/12/2003 6:57:14 AM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; livius; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; ...
As ALL of you know, liturgical dance is my hot button. I strongly suggest a letter writing campaign to our bishops, beginning right now! Otherwise, this is what you will be facing the next time you attend mass.

In general, experimentation is gravely wrong, as stated in Vatican II's Instruction on the Orderly Carrying out of the Constitution on the Liturgy (Liturgicae Instaurationes):

"The effectiveness of liturgy does not lie in experimenting with rites and altering them over and over, nor in a continuous reductionism, but solely in entering more deeply into the word of God and the mystery being celebrated. It is the presence of these two that authenticates the Church's rites, not what some priest decides, indulging his own preferences."

"Keep in mind, then, that the private recasting of ritual introduced by an individual priest insults the dignity of the believer and lays the way open to individual and idiosyncratic forms in celebrations that are in fact the property of the whole Church."

Those of you who wish to join me in this campaign (I can hardly type, my hands are shaking), please let me know. I have already researched this topic and have extensive references that are proven to stop the introduction of liturgical dance.

2 posted on 06/12/2003 7:06:15 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
The new GIRM is slated for implementation on July 1st in all Arch/dioceses!

Contact your bishop via email, phone or fax to make sure this is happening in your area!

U. S. Catholic Bishops contact page by state or diocese

3 posted on 06/12/2003 7:12:34 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Alberta's Child; Aloysius; AniGrrl; Antoninus; Bellarmine; BlackElk; Canticle_of_Deborah; Dajjal; ..
O Torquemada, where art thou?
4 posted on 06/12/2003 7:14:26 AM PDT by Loyalist (Keeper of the Schismatic Orc Ping List. Freepmail me if you want on or off it.)
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To: NYer
two other reviewers refer to belly dancing as a style of sacred dance.

Some people have a queer idea of "sacred". Of all the pieces of "liturgical experimentation" to which we have been subjected, "liturgical dance" is by far the most evil. The 9AM Folk Group and the 11:30 Downbeat Combo Band are bad enough, but these dancers clearly and undeniably pervert the God-centered Holy Sacrifice of the Mass into a Man-centered performance.

6 posted on 06/12/2003 7:27:14 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: NYer
At St. Joseph's Parish of the Polish National Catholic Church in Florida

These jokers are schismatics anyway.

There's no point in complaining to anyone in the hierarchy about people who think that being Polish is more important than being Catholic.

I believe that Cardinal Ratzinger made the point some years ago that dancing in the West has always been associated with recreation and physical courtship and its only religious associations have been with highly immoral fertility cults.

Artificially introducing dance into the Roman liturgy is, on its face, an attack on two thousand years of Western liturgical tradition.

7 posted on 06/12/2003 7:34:44 AM PDT by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: NYer
I have seen this before. One of my parishes back home, had this at one of the Masses. She danced up the aisle to the altar, leading the procession of the priest and altar servers. I was a little shocked. I don't want to see this.
8 posted on 06/12/2003 8:09:52 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: NYer
A very quick once-over of the USCC site does NOT yield a list of members of the LitCommit. Disappointing.
10 posted on 06/12/2003 8:18:39 AM PDT by ninenot (Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
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To: NYer

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13 posted on 06/12/2003 8:36:49 AM PDT by drstevej
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Psalm 149:3
Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.

16 posted on 06/12/2003 8:53:05 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: NYer; Corin Stormhands; drstevej; Salvation; ninenot; Loyalist; asformeandformyhouse
There is also the question of Psalm 150 which recommends exuberance in celebration with timbrel and dance, strings and pipe, cymbals.

Psalm 149:3 Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.

Lies! LIES! LIES! LIES!!!!!

(Did you expect anything less???)

From the Douai Old Testament:

Psalm 149

Cantate Domino.

The church is particularly bound to praise God.

Alleluia.

1 Sing ye to the Lord a new canticle: let his praise be in the church of the saints.

2 Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: and let the children of Sion be joyful in their king.

3 Let them praise his name in choir: let them sing to him with the timbrel and the psaltery. (laudent nomen eius in choro in tympano et cithara cantent ei)

4 For the Lord is well pleased with his people: and he will exalt the meek unto salvation.

5 The saints shall rejoice in glory: they shall be joyful in their beds.

6 The high praises of God shall be in their mouth: and two-edged swords in their hands:

7 To execute vengeance upon the nations, chastisements among the people:

8 To bind their kings with fetters, and their nobles with manacles of iron.

9 To execute upon them the judgment that is written: this glory is to all his saints. Alleluia.

Psalm 150

Laudate Dominum in sanctis.

An exhortation to praise God with all sorts of instruments.

Alleluia.

1 Praise ye the Lord in his holy places: praise ye him in the firmament of his power.

2 Praise ye him for his mighty acts: praise ye him according to the multitude of his greatness.

3 Praise him with the sound of trumpet: praise him with psaltery and harp.

4 Praise him with timbrel and choir: praise him with strings and organs. (laudate eum in tympano et choro laudate eum in cordis et organo)

5 Praise him on high sounding cymbals: praise him on cymbals of joy: let every spirit praise the Lord. Alleluia.

But of course, its old hat to just retranslate the Bible to make it support whatever the hell you want it to now support.

37 posted on 06/12/2003 10:34:08 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: NYer
I trust that the Bishops will not abandon this sensible teaching when they discuss liturgical dance.

Wish I could say the same.

There's trust, and then there's prudence!

68 posted on 06/12/2003 12:41:50 PM PDT by TotusTuus (Ordinary Time: The season of our vocation in the world)
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To: NYer
This is the logical next step. First the "presider" turned around to face his audience, converting the sanctuary into a stage for his folksy, stand-up comedic routine. Musicians soon followed. Now here come the dancers.
155 posted on 06/13/2003 6:54:21 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: NYer
Bumpus ad summum
195 posted on 06/14/2003 5:23:32 AM PDT by Dajjal
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