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RECOVERING THE TRUTH & A COMING TO A CORRECT UNDERSTANDING OF JESUS
Bet Emet Ministries ^ | Unknown | Craig Lyons

Posted on 07/01/2003 10:22:12 AM PDT by ksen

RECOVERING THE TRUTH & A COMING TO A CORRECT UNDERSTANDING OF JESUS

Jesus and all his followers were Jews who were faithful to Biblical Judaism and never intended to separate from or start a new religion; after their deaths the Gentile Christian church will condemn the Jewish Christians as heretics...in time fruit of the Jewish Church (Gentile Christianity) will destroy it's mother

We have a unique paradox in Biblical history; one which touches every follower of Jesus yet today and which reaches to the very core of our own culture and time. It is impossible to understand Jesus or his message until we come to a correct understanding of the events that fashioned such persecution of the Jews by the Gentile believers and which contributed to the alteration of the faith of Jesus as can be found to have existed in the first century of Second Temple Judaism. As stated earlier the first and greatest division in the early church concerned the relationship of the followers of Jesus to Judaism; it shaped everything that was to follow. One of the greatest problems facing Christianity today is how to reconcile what it has become with G-d's intended vision for the Gentile nations of the world whereby they become part of the Israel of G-d and not "replace" it with a religion of their own creation. The answers for such a problem come only when one personally acquaints himself with an unbiased presentation of the facts of the tragic events of this part of Biblical history and traces the repercussions of such events down through the corridors of history and ultimately seeing the shock waves from them that are present in our own religious beliefs systems and cultures of today.

Today many scholars tell us the truth today about the early church and courageously break from "church traditions" and "mind control" to present the facts concerning these "events" and the corruption of the early faith of the historical Jesus by the Gentile "converts" who would later steer the direction of this "faith" throughout recorded history. It is so simple today to find this information, but sadly few look or even know the need to see if "they be in the faith." That being the case, we accept the "spin" of religious leaders down through history and the real message of Jesus is never heard, or at best, is overlooked for more "orthodox teachings" espoused which have taken it's place. Keith Akers, in his The Lost Religion of Jesus, states the case as well as any. Jewish Christianity consisted of those early Christians who followed the teachings of Jesus, as they understood him, and also remained loyal to the Jewish law of Moses as they understood it. Messianic Judaism was not to replace Judaism with a new faith; it was the goal and zenith for which the prophets wrote and hoped. This simple statement is of profound importance, because the Jewish Christians were eventually rejected both by orthodox Judaism and by orthodox Gentile Christianity. The understanding of the Jewish follower of Jesus was not that of orthodox Christianity (as it came to be where Jesus is seen more like the sun-g-dmen of the Gentile nations than a human messiah). Likewise the Jewish follower of Jesus possessed an understanding of the law of Moses that was the same as orthodox Judaism, but yet this view would later be rejected under the influence of Paul and his churches. Jerome's celebrated comment in the fourth century summarizes this dual rejection: "As long as they seek to be both Jews and Christians, they are neither Jews nor Christians" [Letter 112] (Akers, The Lost Religion of Jesus, p. 7).

The Jewish Christians considered Jesus to be the "true prophet" who would lead the people back to the eternal law that commanded simple living and nonviolence. They saw in Jesus their hopes for physical redemption and the fulfillment of the prophets. It was their hope that the Law would go forth from Zion with Jesus at its head as the long awaited Messiah and King of Israel. It was their hope that the enemies of Israel would be vanquished by the word of this anointed one of the LORD as taught in the Psalms of Solomon (no not the psalms you are familiar with but a separate Jewish books that was recognized by Jews as authoritative in the first century). The law, which was cherished by all G-dfearing Jews, had been given to Moses; indeed, it had existed from the beginning of the world, and was intended to be cherished and observed by both Jew and non-Jew alike because in the Commandments one finds the unique Covenant stipulations of his Covenant before G-d. In sharp contrast with the gentile Christian movement, which emerged in the wake of Paul's teaching, Jewish Christianity strove to make the Jewish law stricter than the Jewish tradition seemed to teach ("you have heard it said but I say unto you...'much more'"). Such was the Jesus' love for G-d and His Word. But this cannot be said for the Gentile churches which strove to find ways to lay aside the law for the laxity that was taught under the disguise of "grace." In other words, the non-Jews loved the large "gray areas" that came from the teaching of Paul and others who negated the Law through their own personal "revelations" and their own personal "gospels" (Paul is found saying in Rom 2:16 16: In the day when G-d shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel and again in 2 Tim 2:8 8: Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel). It is a little early in this article to address this concept but if you study continues you will reach a point in your understanding and knowledge where you will see beyond any doubt that the "gospel of Paul" replaced the "gospel of Jesus and Judaism."

Jewish Christianity is the blind spot in virtually all accounts of Jesus. Everyone agrees that Jesus was a Jew and that his initial followers were Jews. Yet of the thousands of books written about Jesus, almost none acknowledge the central importance of Jewish Christianity; at least until the end of the previous century and the beginning of the present one. That was true up until the latter part of the last century when Jewish, as well as European scholars began to reevaluate the Jewish Jesus and contrast the Historical Jesus with the Christ of Faith. There are many who are eager to focus specifically on the Jewishness of Jesus, until they get to the point of examining those of his followers who, like their teacher, were also Jewish, and in doing so see for themselves that actually nothing really changed within this community of the closest followers of Jesus until the early fourth century when Rome would effectively destroy the Jewish "followers of Jesus" by declaring them official heretics. The power of Rome would propagate a Gentile understanding and not a Jewish understanding of Jesus (see Constantine's Easter letter if you have any doubts).

The "Jewishness" of these early Christians does not refer to their ethnic group or nationality, but rather to their beliefs. Paul was a convert to Judaism (H. Maccoby, The Mythmaker, Paul And The Invention Of Christianity) and only later converted to Judaism; first a Sadducee, and after rejection by the Chief Priest he turned to the Pharisees, again only to be rejected by them for his prior cruelty to them as an agent of the Temple police who routed them out and killed them (the Messianic believing strict branch of the Pharisees called Nazarenes/Essenes). Paul also preaches freedom from the law and therefore explicitly rejects Jewish beliefs. Paul, and some of the other Jews who became Christians, renounced the law of Moses and, therefore, were not part of Jewish Christianity. The churches of Paul today (vast majority of Christianity as it exists today) lay outside the true faith of Jesus and will continue to do so unless they encounter the truth about this man of Galilee and the truth about their own religious history.

Without understanding Jewish Messianic Judaism or "intended Christianity", we cannot understand the historical Jesus let alone the earliest church nor the corruption of it within the New Testament correctly. Lacking this knowledge we are doomed to misinterpret most of what we read in the New Testament and our worship let alone our conduct will be in error...much of which is defined as sin in the Torah.


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Theology; Worship
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To: Alex Murphy
The Natural is wholly infidelic in it's original text, however. And I'm convinced the Holy Spirit must have been at work in that movie, because there's no way Robert Redford could have turned in such a magnificent work on his own, given his political bent.

Definately inspired made in Buffalo and my kids appeared in the crowd scenes ..

201 posted on 07/01/2003 5:06:39 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: milan
I would but I'm too busy with my 35 wives
202 posted on 07/01/2003 5:07:43 PM PDT by JesseShurun (The Hazzardous Duke)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Who was he praying to Steve? You quoted the scripture so you must know
203 posted on 07/01/2003 5:08:10 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: JesseShurun
Gentiles are under the Noahide covenant, which James touches upon in Acts 15:28-29.

I was waiting to see if this would come up.

204 posted on 07/01/2003 5:08:36 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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To: ThomasMore
How ya been mom? I've been too busy to post as much as I'd like.
God Bless,

Well thanks..Blessings to you too

205 posted on 07/01/2003 5:09:31 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; milan
That is the dumbest thing I have ever read.

Guess you don't read much.

You mean you've written dumber?

206 posted on 07/01/2003 5:10:16 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg
you sir are funnier than me and that's funny!! We must alert Eckleburg who is a conneissieur, (and can spell besides,) of fine music. Methinks you could replace Marlowe in her esteemitidy
207 posted on 07/01/2003 5:11:27 PM PDT by JesseShurun (The Hazzardous Duke)
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To: Alex Murphy; ET(end tyranny)
since they were in effect anyway, wonder what he thinks Jesus came to do? read them to us?
208 posted on 07/01/2003 5:15:06 PM PDT by JesseShurun (The Hazzardous Duke)
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To: irishtenor
LOL
209 posted on 07/01/2003 5:16:59 PM PDT by jboot (Faith is not a work)
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To: SoothingDave
If Luke testifies to Peter and Paul, who testifies to Luke? Who told you that John is the author of the Gospel bearing his name, or Matthew, or Mark?

Paul does in 1 Timothy , He quotes from the gospel of Luke

1Ti 5:18For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer [is] worthy of his reward.

Luk 10:7   And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.

The greek word for reward is the same as hire

210 posted on 07/01/2003 5:20:53 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: milan
Honestly, what incredibly ignorant posted was the dumbest thing I have ever read.

Lol. Is there an echo in here? Are you capable of forming any other sentences?

211 posted on 07/01/2003 5:21:12 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Alex Murphy
I was waiting to see if this would come up.

It's a floater not a sinker...

212 posted on 07/01/2003 5:21:45 PM PDT by jboot (Faith is not a work)
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To: milan; JesseShurun
You're a regular Christian comedian!! You should do that professionally.

Sure if you like jokes on a par with "Is your refridgerator running". Lol.

213 posted on 07/01/2003 5:22:54 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: RnMomof7
Who was he praying to Steve? You quoted the scripture so you must know

Ah. You ever heard of the Father?

214 posted on 07/01/2003 5:23:52 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Alex Murphy
You mean you've written dumber?

I try to be all things to all audiences.

215 posted on 07/01/2003 5:26:45 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Lol. Is there an echo in here? Are you capable of forming any other sentences?

No, not in this instance.< echo> It honestly was the dumbest thing I have ever read.< /echo> I don't know how to rephrase that to your liking.

216 posted on 07/01/2003 5:28:34 PM PDT by milan
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Maybe that's you're problem. You should concentrate more on one thing, then you wouldn't be incredibily ignorant.
217 posted on 07/01/2003 5:29:31 PM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Sure if you like jokes on a par with "Is your refridgerator running". Lol.

That's pretty funny too. Maybe you guys could pair up and tell jokes.

218 posted on 07/01/2003 5:30:27 PM PDT by milan
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To: Alex Murphy
You mean you've written dumber?

Okay...maybe we have a trio of comedians!

219 posted on 07/01/2003 5:31:52 PM PDT by milan
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To: JesseShurun; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; ET(end tyranny)
Keep workin’, workin’, workin'
While their chains you’re jerkin',
Keep them Gentiles workin’
Noahide!

Don't try to exegete him,
Just twist Paul’s words or delete 'em
Soon them Jews will look white.


My heart's palpatatin'
And the Lake of Fire is waitin’,
Awaitin' at the end of my life.

Rip Paul out,
Tear 'em up,
Rip him out,

Noahide!

220 posted on 07/01/2003 5:32:21 PM PDT by drstevej
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