[q_an_a]

Thanks for organizing the list. What a terrible mix religion AND politics. We can't have dinner too that would really be the cause of great emotional havic.

[Grampa Dave]

Actually that has been the problem, the banning of politics at the parish level.

Conservatives can't plead their case, but it is okay to bring enviral whackos in to plea their case. It is okay for a so called homeless advocates to plea their cases. Yet if we plead our side, that was considered to be political and a no no due to our non profit status.

Even with a conservative priest, the game has been stacked against a diocese if the bishop was left wing. Our priest got flack for having the names of relatives and friends involved in the Afghan invasion on a prayer list for each service. He stood his ground. In the Iraq war, we had 3 men who were sons or sons in law in harms way. He bought 3 special candles out of his own pocket, and those 3 men received our prayers during the prayers during each service. He lit the candles before each service and had the accolytes extinguish them after each service. He still got some flack from the left wingers of the church.

So like the cultural war that our nation battles each day with one arm tied behind its back with the left wing, we have had the same problem in about every parish for the past 3 decades.