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I like his face. He looks peaceful.

Watched the interview between Raymond Arroyo and Cardinal Arinze again today. Here are some of the more salient aspects:

1. The Novus Ordo mass is here to stay. Ecclesiae Dei Commision, headed up by Cardinal Hoyos, approved the Tridentine Rite "for always". It is up to the bishop to allow its use at a local level.

2. Those who declare the Novus Ordo Rite as "wrong" are fundamentalists and don't even deserve to attend the Tridentine Rite. These individuals no longer trust the church. The same Holy Spirit that inspired the Tridentine Rite, inspired the Novus Ordo Rite.. The have lost sight of the fact that Christ promised to remain with His church "for all days". Those who seek a restoration of the Tridentine Rite, often work under a hidden agenda to push through their request.

3. With regard to a 'universal indult', there was a misunderstanding. Cardinal Arinze has actively promoted more use of Latin within the Novus Ordo mass.

Cardinal Arinze spoke at length about how the Second Vatican Council came to make the changes that it did. He spoke of te church 200 years ago. The church knew little about the cultures in other countries. He cited many of the African nations, along with others. It was time to address the needs of all these cultrues. As Arinze put it, the church "does not live in the Vatican museum'.

He smiled throughout the interview, speaking globally and not, in the least offended, by his reception at Georgetown University. "The world is a big place", he said.

***The same Holy Spirit that inspired the Tridentine Rite, inspired the Novus Ordo Rite.***

This seems to be the watershed issue between the trads and the rest. Agree?

This line seemed a bit un nerving

"Those who seek a restoration of the Tridentine Rite, often work under a hidden agenda to push through their request."

No hidden agenda, people are sick of the abuses, even abuses that are regaurded as lict. Even Cardinal Arinze himself said eralier in the year said that many people attend the TRidentine masses because they are sick of the abuses.

Look, if the Novus Ordo was properly celebrated like it is with Assuption Grotto and St Agnes, if it was properly translated, if altar girls and EMEs were abolished(with so many Deacons being ordained, one would think there would be less need for EMEs, and I think that the more deacons ordained the better to get rid of EMEs), and if the altar rails were never taken away and kneeling was still the normative for reception of communion, the demand for the traditional mass would be nill, and those who support the TRidentine rite would be literally dieing off. Sadly, the mistaken ideal of "Worshiping like early Christians" have been shoved down the laitys throats and a very agressive manner, and who could blame so many for being sick of it.

I myself do not like schism, I think the SSPX should take the deal Rome gave them, but that said, if some Catholics are suffering like they are out in Long Island, if they are in diocese that have no parish equivlent to even Holy Rosary in Portland or St. Patricks in Columbus, and of course, no convinent indults, or even the rare Anglican Use parish then they should be hardly blamed for going to a SSPX parish to get the reverence they so richly deserve. And yes, they still recieve valid sacraments.

2. Those who declare the Novus Ordo Rite as "wrong" are fundamentalists and don't even deserve to attend the Tridentine Rite. These individuals no longer trust the church. The same Holy Spirit that inspired the Tridentine Rite, inspired the Novus Ordo Rite.. The have lost sight of the fact that Christ promised to remain with His church "for all days". Those who seek a restoration of the Tridentine Rite, often work under a hidden agenda to push through their request.

I think he knows what he's talking about