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Fred Thompson: Pro-Choice Republican
Libertarian Republican ^ | April 7, 2007 | Eric Dondero

Posted on 04/11/2007 11:11:59 PM PDT by FairOpinion

On Abortion: "Government should stay out of it... The ultimate decision must be made by the women... Government should treat its citizens as adults capable of making moral decisions on their own." -- Fred Thompson, July 1994

Are the Social Cons ignorant of Thompson's background?

Back in the early to mid-1990s, there was a raging battle in the Republican Party between the Moderates/Libertarians versus the Religious Right. On one side there was Ann Stone's Republicans For Choice, the Ripon Society, Log Cabin Clubs and the organization that I had founded in 1990 - the Republican Liberty Caucus. On the other side was the Religious Right.

Tennessee was right smack dab in the middle of it all.

The leader of the TN Anti-Religious Right forces at the time was Michael McCloskey.

During the same time, Fred Thompson was making noises of running for the US Senate. McCloskey was one of the ones who was influential in recruiting him to run. McCloskey saw him as a Celebrity counter-force to the Religious Right/Pro-Lifers that could win the GOP Nomination.

And the Religious Right, predictably came after Thompson. It was a bitterly fought primary. Thompson's opponent was Religious Rightist John Bakkes. In the end, Thompson's celebrity status carried him through, and he won with 62% to Bakkes's 37%. Many credited McCloskey and his "Young Republican brigades" with helping Thompson's win.

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1 posted on 04/11/2007 11:12:00 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Full quote ( see link)

Murphey:

Some conservatives got flustered by your comments on abortion and Roe vs. Wade. Would you like to explain your position on abortion?

Thompson:

Government should stay out of it. No public financing. The ultimate decision must be made by the women. Government should treat its citizens as adults capable of making moral decisions on their own.


2 posted on 04/11/2007 11:16:04 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Stop the Dems. Work for Republican Victory in 2008.)
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To: pissant; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Sturm Ruger
This is the rudy boosters new strategy to take out their biggest threat.


3 posted on 04/11/2007 11:18:52 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: FairOpinion

You say you want to stop hillary, yet you are promoting a candidate with almost the same views, way to go.

Clinton/Giuliani ‘08 Because we all just Love New York.


4 posted on 04/11/2007 11:25:37 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: flashbunny

Afraid of the truth?

This is HISTORICAL FACT:

The leader of the TN Anti-Religious Right forces at the time was Michael McCloskey.

During the same time, Fred Thompson was making noises of running for the US Senate. McCloskey was one of the ones who was influential in recruiting him to run. McCloskey saw him as a Celebrity counter-force to the Religious Right/Pro-Lifers that could win the GOP Nomination.

And the Religious Right, predictably came after Thompson. It was a bitterly fought primary. Thompson’s opponent was Religious Rightist John Bakkes. In the end, Thompson’s celebrity status carried him through, and he won with 62% to Bakkes’s 37%. Many credited McCloskey and his “Young Republican brigades” with helping Thompson’s win.


5 posted on 04/11/2007 11:26:51 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Stop the Dems. Work for Republican Victory in 2008.)
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To: FairOpinion

Not afraid of the truth. Just tired of the FUD from the rudy bots. The ones who have no standing trying to cry “he’s pro choice” considering their 100% NARAL rated candidate.

The truth:
- Fred Thompson was endorsed by a pro life group when he ran in 1994
- Fred Thompson has a solid pro life voting record in the senate
- Fred Thompson has a zero rating from NARAL
- Fred Thompson has said Roe V wade was bad law.


National Right to Life Committee on Fred Thompson:

“This morning, I cited reports being promoted by the pro-Romney blog Evangelicals for Mitt suggesting that Fred Thompson ran his two campaigns for Senate in Tennessee as a pro-choicer. Not so, National Right to Life executive co-director Darla St. Martin just told me.

St. Martin said that she went down to Tennessee in 1994 to speak with Thompson personally when he first ran for Senate, and that she determined he was against abortion.

‘I interviewed him and on all of the questions I asked him, he opposed abortion,’ St. Martin said. She told me that the group went on to support him in that election, and his record reinforced for her that their determination was correct.

‘He has a consistent voting record that is pro-life,’ she said.

On the NRLC website, they archive their congressional ratings back to 1997, so they include six of his eight years in the Senate. Thompson took the pro-life position on every vote he cast on the abortion issue…”

Source: American Spectator

“NARAL also rated nine other Republicans… Based on their abortion rights stance, the following Republicans received a grade of ‘F’: …Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee…”


6 posted on 04/11/2007 11:30:36 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: flashbunny; SE Mom; jellybean; onyx; Howlin; Sturm Ruger
PING !
7 posted on 04/11/2007 11:37:29 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: flashbunny

“WALLACE: Would you like to overturn Roe. ...

THOMPSON: You said lightning round, now. If you want ...”

In other words he was waffling, didn’t say a categorical “YES”.


8 posted on 04/11/2007 11:42:57 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Stop the Dems. Work for Republican Victory in 2008.)
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To: FairOpinion

This has been posted at least 3 times today that I have seen, and it’s been posted many times over the last few weeks. is there a reason you need to post it againt? Haven’t you been on Free Republic to know how things are done, or is this an orchestrated campaign?


9 posted on 04/11/2007 11:45:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: FairOpinion
WALLACE: Do you want to overturn Roe vs. Wade?

THOMPSON: I think Roe vs. Wade was bad law and bad medical science. And the way to address that is through good judges. I don't think the court ought to wake up one day and make new social policy for the country. It's contrary to what it's been the past 200 years.

We have a process in this country to do that. Judges shouldn't be doing that. That's what happened in that case. I think it was wrong.

FOX News
10 posted on 04/11/2007 11:46:05 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: FairOpinion

Do you really think you will win over Republicans using left wing tactics?


11 posted on 04/11/2007 11:47:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: FairOpinion
You mashed some lines together when you cut this out.

The Social Cons have never fully trusted Rudy Giuliani. All it took was one small misstep by Giuliani the other day on abortion, for them to bail. Now the Blogosphere is loaded with "Run Fred, Run!" articles and posts.

If I was shilling for Rudy, I'd cut that part, too. Can't have people thinking that when people learn Rudy's real views that they bail on him now can we?

12 posted on 04/12/2007 12:01:01 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: FairOpinion
Choose your poison. That said, Fred Thompson is THE most viable conservative candidate we have, other than Hunter or Paul.

If he decides to run, I personally, will be out on the streets for him. I'm tired of pushing the button for the lessor of two evils.

Rudybaby,LameCain, and Romus are all Rinos. I'm sick of them. You folks go ahead and support those who you think have a better chance. Me, I will support the most conservative candidate. Yes, I'll waste my vote - deal with it! I may even vote Constitution Party if need be.

Is this forum about supporting conservatism above party or NOT?

13 posted on 04/12/2007 12:07:52 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum)
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To: FairOpinion
Some that post here will only be happy when every Republican Candidate has been destroyed. Why? I don`t know all the reasons but sick puppies seems to be a place to start. These one issue idiots think it`s OK to blow up our guys yet don`t have a problem with Hillorat being President. In other words, they are loud in their views on abortion, guns and next week`s no=no, gay rights, yet they still have to know a Rat President coupled with a Rat Congress will actually pass real laws that wipe out all conservative positions. It is truely amazing.
14 posted on 04/12/2007 12:11:22 AM PDT by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: FairOpinion
Yet another BS thread about a 13-year-old quote.




Your desperation emits an unpleasant smell.

15 posted on 04/12/2007 12:15:24 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: FairOpinion
The leader of the TN Anti-Religious Right forces at the time was Michael McCloskey.

At what time? Why have you redacted this important fact?

16 posted on 04/12/2007 12:16:29 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: FairOpinion; Howlin; carlo3b; girlangler; KoRn; Shortstop7; Lunatic Fringe; Darnright; babygene; ...
Every time a FRed Thread is posted new FRedHeads are born. Thank you for helping promote Fred.

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17 posted on 04/12/2007 12:17:12 AM PDT by jellybean (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT! Proud to be an Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: FairOpinion

Your candidate is pro-abortion. You should be proud of that without spreading calculated deception.


18 posted on 04/12/2007 12:17:38 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: nickcarraway
This has been posted at least 3 times today that I have seen...

It's the fresh talking point from the pro-abortion anti-gun Rudyphiles.

19 posted on 04/12/2007 12:18:26 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: A Navy Vet

One supports conservatism when one defeats Democrats.


20 posted on 04/12/2007 12:23:55 AM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: Chunga
One supports conservatism when one defeats Democrats.

False.

One supports conservatism when one defeats LIBERALS.

21 posted on 04/12/2007 12:25:06 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: FairOpinion
Fred is Pro-life, and he will run a Pro-life campaign.

Do you know anyone who is pro-abortion who wants to overturn Roe vs. Wade?

22 posted on 04/12/2007 12:26:19 AM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: FairOpinion
Now, now, now, FO. Do you think no one has access to that interview with Chris Wallace? How about we post the whole excerpt in context:

WALLACE: As we said, perhaps the main reason that people are talking about you is this uneasy feeling among conservatives that there is not one of their own, a true conservative, in the field.

So let's do a lightning round — quick questions, quick answers, a variety of issues — to see where Fred Thompson stands.

THOMPSON: Um hmm.

WALLACE: Abortion.

THOMPSON: Pro-life.

WALLACE: Would you like to overturn Roe. ...

THOMPSON: You said lightning round, now. If you want ...

WALLACE: Well, let's go.

THOMPSON: ... more, give me another question. I'll work through it.

WALLACE: Do you want to overturn Roe vs. Wade?

THOMPSON: I think Roe vs. Wade was bad law and bad medical science. And the way to address that is through good judges. I don't think the court ought to wake up one day and make new social policy for the country. It's contrary to what it's been the past 200 years.

We have a process in this country to do that. Judges shouldn't be doing that. That's what happened in that case. I think it was wrong.

23 posted on 04/12/2007 12:27:31 AM PDT by jellybean (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT! Proud to be an Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: jellybean

You mean a Rudyphile pulled a Fred quote out of context?


24 posted on 04/12/2007 12:28:59 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Petronski
False. One supports conservatism when one defeats LIBERALS.

That's unbelievably naive.

One doesn't support conservatism by voting third-party or staying home when your choice is between a RINO and a Democrat.

This happened in the midterms and you've got the Speaker Of The House traipsing off to Syria and threatening to go to Iran to meet with Mr. Israel-Has-No-Right-To-Exist. You've got a Democrat-contolled Congress threatening to cut off funding for the troops in Iraq. You've got leftists chairing every Committee in the House!

Grow Up!

25 posted on 04/12/2007 12:32:49 AM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: Chunga

If the GOP nominates a pro-abortion, pro-gun candidate, they willfully forfeit the conservative vote. It is their choice.


26 posted on 04/12/2007 12:34:04 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Petronski

I think you mean anti-gun.


27 posted on 04/12/2007 12:36:18 AM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: Chunga

Of course. Thank you.


28 posted on 04/12/2007 12:36:46 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Petronski

Not only out of context, but like our Dem Governor here in WI who struck letters and words out of the state budget, he completely changed the meaning and the intent.


29 posted on 04/12/2007 12:36:52 AM PDT by jellybean (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT! Proud to be an Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: Petronski

CORRECTION:

If the GOP nominates a pro-abortion, gungrabbing candidate, they willfully forfeit the conservative vote. It is their choice.


30 posted on 04/12/2007 12:37:25 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: FairOpinion
Even if Fred Thompson is pro-choice, which is quite a stretch, he comes by it honestly, as his statement is consistent with his philosophy of limited government. That's more than can be said for some other pro-choice candidates who don't seem to care much for liberty when it comes to other issues.

This endless parade of trivialities that's being passed off as "negative baggage" for Thompson only makes him seem like a stronger candidate than before. Any more of this and I may just have to back Fred outright.
31 posted on 04/12/2007 12:37:26 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: The Pack Knight

That’s the “collateral damage” of vicious Ruditude: pointing out the actual conservatives in the race.


32 posted on 04/12/2007 12:39:08 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Chunga
That's unbelievably naive.

One doesn't support conservatism by voting third-party or staying home when your choice is between a RINO and a Democrat.

Actually, it's not naive. It's entirely logical. It's also "big-picture" oriented.

Voting a liberal into office on a Republican ticket basically destroys the conservative option for government. When voters no longer have a choice between conservative and liberal the entire political landscape will shift radically left.

In the long run, the damage will be significantly greater to the conservative movement AND the country then a temporary democrat majority or president.

33 posted on 04/12/2007 12:40:28 AM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: Petronski
If the GOP nominates a pro-abortion, pro-gun candidate, they willfully forfeit the conservative vote. It is their choice.

I'm a conservative. I have voted for Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss, Alan Keyes, Phil Gramm and Johnny Isakson in general elections and primaries. I'm supporting Fred Thompson's candidacy (if he runs).

I will vote for Giuliani against any Democrat in the field, and so will many other conservatives.

34 posted on 04/12/2007 12:44:19 AM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: The Blitherer
In the long run, the damage will be significantly greater to the conservative movement AND the country then a temporary democrat majority or president.

Do you realize that this Democrat-controlled House and Senate have a vested interest in the United States Of America losing the War In Iraq?

35 posted on 04/12/2007 12:51:27 AM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: FairOpinion

Saw his interview with Cavudo yesterday, have to admit, this guy seems like a bit of a milquetoast.


36 posted on 04/12/2007 12:53:08 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Chunga
Do you realize that this Democrat-controlled House and Senate have a vested interest in the United States Of America losing the War In Iraq?

Yes, I do. Try to understand what I'm saying about the long-term consequences of a liberal Republican party.

37 posted on 04/12/2007 12:53:39 AM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: jellybean

Oh, fer sure, I’m a Fred Head. Ping me all you like.

There’s only one thing that could make me change my mind.


38 posted on 04/12/2007 1:00:42 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: The Blitherer
Yes, I do. Try to understand what I'm saying about the long-term consequences of a liberal Republican party.

If we lose the War In Iraq, it will be because the Democrats defunded it, betrayed the American people and their military branches and gave aid and comfort to the enemy by meeting with Fascists like Assad and The Ass Of Iran.

I am far more concerned with the long-term consequences of military defeat than I am with a four-year Giuliani presidency. Giuliani is wrong on many issues, but he's right on at least four: The War In Iraq, Support For Israel, Tax Cuts and The Budget. That will do for me in '08 if he's the nominee.

39 posted on 04/12/2007 1:04:06 AM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: RatsDawg; FairOpinion
“You say you want to stop hillary, yet you are promoting a candidate with almost the same views, way to go.”

I think Fairopinion might have a mental problem... Or maybe he supports other Rudy positions; pro gay like Rudy, pro abortion like Rudy, anti gun like Rudy....

40 posted on 04/12/2007 1:06:51 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Chunga

“when your choice is between a RINO and a Democrat”

A rino IS a democrat...


41 posted on 04/12/2007 1:09:02 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: babygene

Thompson and Giuliani have the same position on homosexuals: both are against homosexual marriage, but tolerant of domestic partnerships. Read the FT interview on FoxNews.

This historical and factual article points out FT’s position on abortion. His voting record doesn’t negate it — he was always for early term abortion and against late term abortion.


42 posted on 04/12/2007 1:11:02 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Stop the Dems. Work for Republican Victory in 2008.)
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To: babygene
A rino IS a democrat...

Write back when you've actually given the subject some thought.

43 posted on 04/12/2007 1:14:44 AM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: FairOpinion

“Thompson and Giuliani have the same position on homosexuals:”

No, Rudy IS a homosexual.... He lived with them and he wears women’s underwear.


44 posted on 04/12/2007 1:21:34 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Chunga

” Write back when you’ve actually given the subject some thought.”

OK, sounds like YOU might be one too...


45 posted on 04/12/2007 1:23:00 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: babygene
Really? RINOs would wholeheartedly support a Thompson campaign?

RINOs vote for Alan Keyes in Presidential primaries?

RINOs help Newt Gingrich get elected?

Like I suggested, give it some thought.

46 posted on 04/12/2007 1:26:51 AM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: babygene
No, Rudy IS a homosexual.... He lived with them and he wears women’s underwear.

You have my sincere apologies. I've been responding to you as though you are a person to be taken seriously.

47 posted on 04/12/2007 1:28:41 AM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: Verax

“this guy seems like a bit of a milquetoast.”

He sure it — He rolled over for John Glenn during the hearings on illegal Chinese contributions to the Clintons, even though Thompson was the chairman of the committee.


48 posted on 04/12/2007 1:29:02 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Stop the Dems. Work for Republican Victory in 2008.)
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To: Chunga

“. I’ve been responding to you as though you are a person to be taken seriou”

What, are you from New York or San Fran?


49 posted on 04/12/2007 1:32:18 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: babygene

What incredible wit. I bet you’ve got ‘em rolling in the aisles down at the Lodge Of The Mystic Order Of Nincompoops.


50 posted on 04/12/2007 1:39:51 AM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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