But Who Was Right – Rudy or Ron?

Buchanan.org ^ | May 18th, 2007 | Patrick J. Buchanan

[Jake The Goose]

OH Pat - there are days I love you and days I want to ring your neck.

[MNJohnnie]

Rudy was. He may be a closet Liberal but he gets the war. Ron Paul is just another one of those lunatic losers, like Buchanan, who thinks if he just screams loud enough, the world will magical reset itself to 09-10-01.

Paul is not just stupid, he is dangerously stupid. He seems to just disregard all factual reality that does not conform to his own emotion based world view and political dogmas. Ron Paul not only has NO business running for President, he has utterly no business being in the US Congress

[fkabuckeyesrule]

***that we invited the attack because we were attacking Iraq.***

But haven't the all-knowing liberals assured us that Iraq had nothing to do with Al-Queada.

[fortheDeclaration]

Pearl Harbor came out of the blue, but it also came out of the troubled history of U.S.-Japanese relations going back 40 years.

The major issue that 'troubled' U.S.-Japanese relations was the fact that the U.S. was the only power able to block Japanese expansion.

That is the same reason that Islam has targeted us as well.

[MNJohnnie]

One again for the Neo Isolations Al Qeda cheerleaders around here, who simply cling to their Neo Isolationist dogmas, instead of bothering to learn even ONE fact about our enemies, here is Bin Laden’s Fatwa. They should actually try READING it.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1996.html

[Remember_Salamis]

Great; another reply by you devoid of facts.

I'm sure you don't give a rat's ass that Ron Paul was only repeating the official conclusion of the 9/11 Commission Report.

Or that Super NeoCon Paul Wolfowitz has made the same claim. Or that countless others have.

[Enduring Freedom]

azzwholes like buchanan have a problem with consistency

1. bush is to blame for letting 9/11 happen;
2. he should have taken out osama and the taliban pre-emptively because they were a potential threat;
3. saddam was a proven threat to the u.s. and the middle east, controlled a modern state with a sophisticated military and had a proven desire and ability to develop and use weapons of mass destruction;
4. bush took out saddam pre-emptively

the only complaint i have about bush and company is they tried to fight a politically-correct war

i would have been far more ruthless and uncompromising and installed an american-friendly military leader until such time as iraq found stability

taking iraq from dictator to democracy in a year or two was complete folly from a naive and pious man

[Vaquero]

NO QUARTER

NO BENDING

NO SUBMISSION

It seems Pat forgets what it means to be American.

[MNJohnnie]

Guess someone better point out to the Do Nothings that Saddam invaded Kuwait and was headed for Saudi Arabia. THEY may think they can just hide their heads up their butts and ignore the fact that the West’s economic viablity rests on the free flow of Oil from the ME, but the rest of us do not have the luxury of being that stupid.

[Remember_Salamis]

The only liberal to participate in that exchange was Rudy Giuliani.

Ron Paul is the most conservative candidate in the debate. In fact, National Review's John Derbyshire wrote yesterday that Paul is "to conservative for the Republican Party" and suggested the Constitution Party.

So when did the GOP put up the "conservatives not welcome" sign up front, but infanticidal cross-dressing mayors welcome.

[PeteB570]

This whole deal started in the 70s when the Arab Dictators realized the PLO would never go “home”. They needed to pick a “bogeyman” to focus the radicals on and they picked the West.

Keeps the little buggers busy and the dictators in power.

[Remember_Salamis]

I posted that same Fatwa to FR a few days ago. Iraq is explicitly mentioned FIVE times, while a US presence in the Holy Land is mentioned THREE times.

The Emphasis of this Fatwa, and all other Fatwas, is on US middle east policy.

[mylife]

sigh.... here we go again with Pats Isolationist BS

[Chode]

i don't like you dad... all you ever do is spank me!!!

but you broke the picture window on purpose, and you set the cat on fire on purpose, and you keep beating on your sister on purpose...

yeah... but all you ever do is spank me so i must!!!

that about cover it???

[MNJohnnie]

This time idiot, read the link and respond to it instead of just flaming out with the same rabidly stupid knee jerk response because the facts do not conform to your emotion based political bigotry. The facts simply do NOT validate your hyper emotional ignorance. TRY one time actually bothering to LEARN something instead of clinging desperately to your 09-10-01 mindset.

There is simply NO excuse what so ever for ANY Freeper to be so willfully stupid about just what, and why, we are fighting. Instead of arrogantly clinging to your own emotion based ignorance try ONE time actually LEARNING something instead of just mindlessly screaming down anything that does not validate your rabid emotional stupidity.

Learn Dinosaur or simply shuffle off to the tar pits of irrelevance. In a world with suitcase nukes and plague in a bottle we can NO longer afford this sort of Neo Isolationist stupidity and hysteric political bigotry.

How many more American civilians have to die before you arrogant butt heads quit mindlessly screaming your ignorant dogmas and deal with the world AS IT IS, not as YOU WISH it were?

[Remember_Salamis]

Western "reliance" on Middle Eastern oil is a major fallacy.

First, we import far more oil from non-middle eastern sources than from the middle east.

Second, we import so much oil because we legally cannot extract oil in the US.

Third, if oil was more expensive, extracting oil from shale in the US would be profitable.

[MNJohnnie]

Instead of just fringing off the same stupid responses day in and day out. Actually TRY reading the links and facts. Responding within 2 mins of the post show not only have you not bothered to read the facts, but that you are also just an ignorant political bigot totally uninterested in any facts that don’t validate your emotion based preconceived notions.

[Remember_Salamis]

Talk about a flame! Look, I posted the original Fatwa link a few days ago, so I know what it says.

I have deployed to Iraq; I have seen.

I used to be a hardcore interventionist, but have changed my opinions. Look at my previous posts from a couple of years ago to confirm that if you want.

I changed my opinion through research and experience.

[MNJohnnie]

Read the post before you respond. As long as ALL you do is fire off the same stupid pre-programed responses, you just make yourself look like an utter moron.