[Jake The Goose]

OH Pat - there are days I love you and days I want to ring your neck.

[MNJohnnie]

Rudy was. He may be a closet Liberal but he gets the war. Ron Paul is just another one of those lunatic losers, like Buchanan, who thinks if he just screams loud enough, the world will magical reset itself to 09-10-01.

Paul is not just stupid, he is dangerously stupid. He seems to just disregard all factual reality that does not conform to his own emotion based world view and political dogmas. Ron Paul not only has NO business running for President, he has utterly no business being in the US Congress

[fkabuckeyesrule]

***that we invited the attack because we were attacking Iraq.***

But haven't the all-knowing liberals assured us that Iraq had nothing to do with Al-Queada.

[fortheDeclaration]

Pearl Harbor came out of the blue, but it also came out of the troubled history of U.S.-Japanese relations going back 40 years.

The major issue that 'troubled' U.S.-Japanese relations was the fact that the U.S. was the only power able to block Japanese expansion.

That is the same reason that Islam has targeted us as well.

[MNJohnnie]

One again for the Neo Isolations Al Qeda cheerleaders around here, who simply cling to their Neo Isolationist dogmas, instead of bothering to learn even ONE fact about our enemies, here is Bin Laden’s Fatwa. They should actually try READING it.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1996.html

[Enduring Freedom]

azzwholes like buchanan have a problem with consistency

1. bush is to blame for letting 9/11 happen;
2. he should have taken out osama and the taliban pre-emptively because they were a potential threat;
3. saddam was a proven threat to the u.s. and the middle east, controlled a modern state with a sophisticated military and had a proven desire and ability to develop and use weapons of mass destruction;
4. bush took out saddam pre-emptively

the only complaint i have about bush and company is they tried to fight a politically-correct war

i would have been far more ruthless and uncompromising and installed an american-friendly military leader until such time as iraq found stability

taking iraq from dictator to democracy in a year or two was complete folly from a naive and pious man

[Vaquero]

NO QUARTER

NO BENDING

NO SUBMISSION

It seems Pat forgets what it means to be American.

[mylife]

sigh.... here we go again with Pats Isolationist BS

[Chode]

i don't like you dad... all you ever do is spank me!!!

but you broke the picture window on purpose, and you set the cat on fire on purpose, and you keep beating on your sister on purpose...

yeah... but all you ever do is spank me so i must!!!

that about cover it???

[MNJohnnie]

Instead of just fringing off the same stupid responses day in and day out. Actually TRY reading the links and facts. Responding within 2 mins of the post show not only have you not bothered to read the facts, but that you are also just an ignorant political bigot totally uninterested in any facts that don’t validate your emotion based preconceived notions.

[MNJohnnie]

Read the post before you respond. As long as ALL you do is fire off the same stupid pre-programed responses, you just make yourself look like an utter moron.

[MNJohnnie]

Still waiting for you to make one rational, factual response. Do you suppose we might see that any time today? Or do you find it utterly to painful to actual deal with the factual reality and so mindlessly cling to your preprogrammed dogmatic responses?

[MNJohnnie]

Still waiting for you to READ the link so you ACTUALLY ONE TIME have a clue what you are talking about. Until then I am simply going to post this to you. So sit down, shut up and actually LEARN something instead of mindlessly clinging to your 09-10-01 political dogmas.

One again for the Neo Isolations Al Qeda cheerleaders around here, who simply cling to their Neo Isolationist dogmas, instead of bothering to learn even ONE fact about our enemies, here is Bin Laden’s Fatwa. They should actually try READING it.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1996.html

[MNJohnnie]

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1996.html

Read and learn something instead of mindlessly screaming your ignorance louder.

[OneLoyalAmerican]

Greetings Remember_Salamis:

Libertarians were often described as Republicans on dope. And Congresscritter Ron Paul delivers an aura of credibility to such an assertion.

Cheers,
OLA

[MNJohnnie]

Ah I see. Waste of time. The Ron Paulites, because he screams the same nonsensical slogans and talking points of their pet pretend Conservative Talk Radio hosts, simply tune out ALL factual reality. So much easier for them to simply scream slogans and emotion based dogmas then to actually LEARN anything.

[Steel Wolf]

Osama bin Laden in his declaration of war in the 1990s said it was U.S. troops on the sacred soil of Saudi Arabia, U.S. bombing and sanctions of a crushed Iraqi people, and U.S. support of Israel's persecution of the Palestinians that were the reasons he and his mujahideen were declaring war on us.

This is wrong. Absolutely wrong.

Listen.

The al-Qa'ida brand of Islam is a very harsh Salafist/apocalyptic strain that is very unpopular with your average Muslim. Far more so that garden variety Wahabbism.

The reason that al-Qa'ida is able to flourish from London to Johannesburg to Jakarta isn't because of the appeal of their convictions. It's because UBL is an expert at absorbing local regional conflicts into the framework of a Global War on Infidels.

His fatwas are advertisements, and what he's selling is context. He doesn't give a hot flying half of a damn about the plight of Iraqi children. What he's doing, which he's done from Algeria to the Philippines, is to tell far flung and unconnected Muslims that their local struggle is part of a greater cause, and that if they join him, they'll have a global network to rely on. It's a deal with the devil, but many make it gladly because they want the power to hurt their enemies more than they hate Salafism.

Al-Qa'ida is a world wide grievance absorption machine, rechanneling the frustration and hate of the world back at the powers-that-be. That's why UBL quoted Iraq and Saudi Arabia in his fatwas, and has quoted everything from racism to Kyoto to the occupation of Andalusia. It's advertising, reaching out to anyone that might join him. He doesn't mean a word of it, and until you realize that, you don't understand him.

To actually believe that UBL will stop fighting once his Middle Eastern grievances are resolved is to be utterly ignorant of his methods and motives. He will keep moving the goal line of grievances until there are no non-Muslims left to defeat.

[SwordofTruth]

I would say neither are right. But Ron Paul is a lot closer to being right than the rest are.

[elhombrelibre]

Ron Paul’s a man’s man. He’d be able to lead the Democrats to their goal. Al Qaeda in Iran wouldn’t have to worry and Iran would be triumphant.