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End the War on Drugs [Ron Paul]
U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Tex., 14th District ^ | 2009-03-30

Posted on 03/30/2009 6:49:14 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

We have recently heard many shocking stories of brutal killings and ruthless violence related to drug cartels warring with Mexican and US officials. It is approaching the fever pitch of a full blown crisis. Unfortunately, the administration is not likely to waste this opportunity to further expand government. Hopefully, we can take a deep breath and look at history for the optimal way to deal with this dangerous situation, which is not unprecedented.

Alcohol prohibition in the 1920’s brought similar violence, gangs, lawlessness, corruption and brutality. The reason for the violence was not that making and selling alcohol was inherently dangerous. The violence came about because of the creation of a brutal black market which also drove profits through the roof. These profits enabled criminals like Al Capone to become incredibly wealthy, and militantly defensive of that wealth. Al Capone saw the repeal of Prohibition as a great threat, and indeed smuggling operations and gangland violence fell apart after repeal. Today, picking up a bottle of wine for dinner is a relatively benign transaction, and beer trucks travel openly and peacefully along their distribution routes.

Similarly today, the best way to fight violent drug cartels would be to pull the rug out from under their profits by bringing these transactions out into the sunlight. People who, unwisely, buy drugs would hardly opt for the back alley criminal dealer as a source, if a coffeehouse-style dispensary was an option. Moreover, a law-abiding dispensary is likely to check ID’s and refuse sale to minors, as bars and ABC stores tend to do very diligently. Think of all the time and resources law enforcement could save if they could instead focus on violent crimes, instead of this impossible nanny-state mandate of saving people from themselves!

If these reasons don’t convince the drug warriors, I would urge them to go back to the Constitution and consider where there is any authority to prohibit private personal choices like this. All of our freedoms – the freedom of religion and assembly, the freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, the right to be free from unnecessary government searches and seizures – stem from the precept that you own yourself and are responsible for your own choices. Prohibition laws negate self-ownership and are an absolute affront to the principles of freedom. I disagree vehemently with the recreational use of drugs, but at the same time, if people are only free to make good decisions, they are not truly free. In any case, states should decide for themselves how to handle these issues and the federal government should respect their choices.

My great concern is that instead of dealing deliberatively with the actual problems, Congress will be pressed again to act quickly without much thought or debate. I can’t think of a single problem we haven’t made worse that way. The panic generated by the looming crisis in Mexico should not be redirected into curtailing more rights, especially our second amendment rights, as seems to be in the works. Certainly, more gun laws in response to this violence will only serve to disarm lawful citizens. This is something to watch out for and stand up against. We have escalated the drug war enough to see it only escalates the violence and profits associated with drugs. It is time to try freedom instead.


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To: bamahead

We all know that George Soros is just looking out for your freedoms. LOL

http://www.nationalfamilies.org/guide/gsoros.html


41 posted on 03/30/2009 7:43:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: SoCalPol

I guess the same people who let their kids ride with someone who’s had a cocktail or beer.


42 posted on 03/30/2009 7:45:03 PM PDT by mommya
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To: Ken H
Addiction to cocaine and opiates was substantially higher in 2000 than it was in 1900 when they were still legal, if the usdoj is to be believed

And just to make sure I understand you what you are saying...we have a serious drug problem in this country...and if make drugs legal and cheaper...we'll have fewer addicts. Is that truly your argument?
43 posted on 03/30/2009 7:45:25 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: Ken H
Sorry, but how would the DOJ know when no standard definition of drug addiction even EXISTED then; ergo, no way to define, identify, and treat drug addicts?


44 posted on 03/30/2009 7:46:39 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: mommya

and both are idiots


45 posted on 03/30/2009 7:47:12 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: cripplecreek
You’re the one who prefers no freedom over a step toward freedom.

Hey bud...I never said anything about not takin' baby-steps...I would be fine with Decriminalization as a HUGE step.

A decade ago the mantra was there there was no violence associated with marijuana. Guess the agenda has changed and the talking points reflect that.

The violence is associated with money, not marijuana.

And how do you remove the money from the equation? Because you're never going to be able to remove the marijuana...something called demand.
46 posted on 03/30/2009 7:48:00 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: OCCASparky
There WERE drugs in America—opiates for one were very prevalent, not to mention destructive.

Yes, but then the public was much more ignorant as to the effects of chemicals on the body and addiction. People were taking those "medicines" generally in good faith to cure some malady, real or imagined. I doubt but a few of them began taking them with the intent to get high. I also doubt very many of them even actually knew what it was they were putting in their body, and most of them would probably have been ecstatic to have a safer alternative like ibuprofen. Aspirin was just coming on the scene, but again, the study of these substances and their effects was in its infancy.

I doubt you can find too many people nowadays who don't know that smoking crack or shooting heroin are bad for you.

47 posted on 03/30/2009 7:49:08 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I think it’s time to decriminalize pot. It would not be a panacea - but I’d like to see what kind of impact it has on Mexico.


48 posted on 03/30/2009 7:50:31 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: rabscuttle385
Yes.. End the war on drugs.. Let them kill themselves.. no rehabs.. no welfare.. no nothing if you choose to do drugs.. done and done!
49 posted on 03/30/2009 7:50:48 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Hey Liberals.. We don't lower our standards, so up yours!" - Andrew Wilkow show)
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To: SoCalPol
and both are idiots

Yup and I know what I'm talking about because I used to be a regular drug user and alcoholic. It's amazing how clearly we see when we grow up and clean up.
50 posted on 03/30/2009 7:51:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: JustSurrounded

When drugs are made legal again I’m sure they would look @ other criminal activities to go after since drugs wouldn’t be profitable to them anymore.

I myself don’t care what direction the states go re: drug policy. I would like to see 50 state policies that range from continued prohibition in conservative states to outright legalization in liberal states. The people should be free to decide this issue, by using their right to vote as well as their right to move to the states that suits their fancy on this issue. Just get the feds out of it (w/ the exception of protecting our borders)!


51 posted on 03/30/2009 7:51:55 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: SoCalPol
I wonder who will volunteer their son or daughter as a passenger in a car driven by a pot head drunk.

What an odd comment.

52 posted on 03/30/2009 7:53:50 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: JustSurrounded
Do you think that the drug lords would just disband, quietly go get respectable jobs, and become law-abiding citizens, were drugs legalized? I suspect drugs are merely the target of opportunity, and there would just be a shift to a new lucrative, illegal, and violent line of business. I find the fight-crime-by-legalizing-whatever-criminals-do rationale a bit weak.

Well, they might have to go back to crimes in which their "victims" weren't quite so willing.

53 posted on 03/30/2009 7:55:38 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: cripplecreek

When you see the news and the items about people high on drugs or booze and kill innocent people which happen here all the time.


54 posted on 03/30/2009 7:56:33 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

I guess I am an idiot then. My family, my husband, myself my boys and their grandparents all went out for dinner the other night. My Mother in law had a glass of wine and my hubby and his dad had a beer - we all made it home OK/ sarc.

Jeez - do people on this board live in reality? Sometimes I wonder.


55 posted on 03/30/2009 7:57:27 PM PDT by mommya
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To: bamahead; cripplecreek
The violence is associated with money, not marijuana.

You're absolutely right: the LAW increases the profit motive for the dealers, not marijuana itself. Violence is one of the LAST things me & my friends are interested in when we smoke....unless we are fighting for the last slice pf pizza, LOL

56 posted on 03/30/2009 7:57:40 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: GLDNGUN
I’d love to ask Ron where the meth should come from to be sold in the “coffee-house dispensaries”.
I love the ignorance!
"Meth" is legal. Meth is prescribed. Meth is given to (sharp intake of the breath) children for ADHD!
"Meth" is called Desoxyn (Methamphetamine Hydrochloride) and is prescribed all of the time! It's not hard to fake the symptoms of ADHD, since the tests are subjective psychological tests and not physiological tests, and receive your very own prescription.

While it isn't in "coffee-house dispensaries" it is available from "in and out" therapists/psychiatrists/psychologists.

57 posted on 03/30/2009 7:58:30 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

You know exactly what that means.
Would you want your son or daughter in a
car driven by a pot head


58 posted on 03/30/2009 7:58:56 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: JustSurrounded
Do you think that the drug lords would just disband, quietly go get respectable jobs, and become law-abiding citizens, were drugs legalized? I suspect drugs are merely the target of opportunity, and there would just be a shift to a new lucrative, illegal, and violent line of business. I find the fight-crime-by-legalizing-whatever-criminals-do rationale a bit weak.

The cartels have already branched out into other illegal activities.¹ They are conglomerates of crime, and marijuana provides nearly 2/3 of their revenue according to the ONDCP.² Legalization would be a severe blow to the cartels.

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¹ The men and women who form part of this network likely number in the thousands. They operate a range of illicit businesses from the regular extortion of street vendors to charging other groups for passage through their territory, to gun and drug smuggling, human smuggling, kidnapping for ransom, money laundering and the operation of a vast network of illegal businesses.

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/isn/Current-Affairs/Security-Watch/Detail/?id=97554&lng=en

²John P. Walters, director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, said marijuana, not heroin or cocaine, is the "bread and butter," "the center of gravity" for Mexican drug cartels that every year smuggle tons of it through the porous U.S.-Mexico border. Of the $13.8 billion that Americans contributed to Mexican drug traffickers in 2004-05, about 62 percent, or $8.6 billion, comes from marijuana consumption.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/022208dnintdrugs.3a98bb0.html

59 posted on 03/30/2009 7:59:23 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: OCCASparky
Sorry, but how would the DOJ know when no standard definition of drug addiction even EXISTED then; ergo, no way to define, identify, and treat drug addicts?

Prior to the Harrison Act, doctors were beginning to understand the dangers of opiate withdrawal and its ramifications for breaking the addiction cycle. They had begun having some success weaning addicts off through maintenance and reduction. That treatment was made illegal, and addicts had to either quit cold turkey or turn to criminal suppliers.

60 posted on 03/30/2009 7:59:54 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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