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Maybe Ron Paul’s fringe is what America needs
Small Gov Times ^ | 2009-12-30 | Steve Adcock

Posted on 12/31/2009 4:21:45 AM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: wolfcreek

Ron Paul is wrong in his reasoning of why we were attacked. There are many places that are too poor and don’t get involved in outside politics, they are attacked by the Muslims, too. Why?

Our problems with terrorism won’t be solved by staying out of wars and the business of other countries. That theory of his is flawed. I’m not sure what the answer is, but he doesn’t have it.

Perhaps we stop all Muslims from coming into the United States. The Muslims that are here, that want to change our country to suit them...well, they can be shipped out. That won’t happen though.

We’re stuck until we are cleansed of this PC bull crap. I doubt there are any politicians that are brave enough to swim without their PC water-wings.

I do agree with Ron Paul on much though...


21 posted on 12/31/2009 5:02:43 AM PST by Irenic
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To: wolfcreek

I hope so. Just out of curiosity, who do you like? Speaking about right now, not holding you to it down the line.


22 posted on 12/31/2009 5:06:47 AM PST by samtheman
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To: McGruff

I missed that from Jim. Thanks for re-posting. Good to see he isn’t fooled by ron paul.


23 posted on 12/31/2009 5:10:22 AM PST by packrat35 (Democrat Healthcare is a 9-11 Attack on the Constitution)
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To: samtheman

IMO, it’s way too early. I’m really not impressed with anyone at this point.


24 posted on 12/31/2009 5:24:30 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: samtheman
Very well said, highlander. And spot-on accurate.

Thanks...and it probably didn't help that he looks like a twin brother to that Heaven's Gate cult leader.

25 posted on 12/31/2009 5:30:59 AM PST by highlander_UW (There's a storm coming - little kid at a Mexican gas station in The Terminator)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ron Paul has too many Alex Jones followers. Alex Jones is the original Mr. Crazy Pants.


26 posted on 12/31/2009 5:42:17 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: rabscuttle385

“They’re terrorists because we’re occupiers,” Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, said on the Larry King show:


27 posted on 12/31/2009 5:46:19 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Truthfully, if a firm and consistent belief in a small government and a non-interventionist foreign policy is what it means to be on the fringe, then I am proud to be here.

This is where Ron Paul lost me and most of the Conservatives I know. The idea that it is better to fight the enemy overseas rather than here in the homeland is rooted in our basic character. Mr Paul seems to feel that if we leave them alone, they'll leave us alone. That idea is so naive that it makes us question his basic thinking process. We are at war. We cannot unilaterally declare peace and go home because the other side won't let us.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with him on the small government concept and most of his other positions....but when he loses his creditability like this it's hard to get it back.

28 posted on 12/31/2009 5:49:45 AM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Retired COB

isolationism does not have a good track record in modern history.


29 posted on 12/31/2009 5:52:35 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Actually, I am increasingly of the opinion that both the action in Afghanistan (what the hell do we need with a country named after a dog?) and the one in Iraq wee unnecessary.

In a rational world, no nation would support, or give sanctuary to terrorists who attack the country with the mightiest military in history. In a rational world, those that do, pay dearly. In a rational world, Libya, Iraq, Iran. Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Pakistan would be radioactive, smoking ruins.

In a rational world, we would not be interventionist, but we would get revenge.


30 posted on 12/31/2009 5:52:41 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Irenic; wolfcreek

Muslims attack us because its what they’ve been taught to do since about 400 AD. Their religion does not tolerate any other religions. They are instructed to kill anyone who refuses to convert.

We could pull everything back to the states and they would seek us out. Only our international trade would die first. All of our allies would be converted by force.


31 posted on 12/31/2009 5:56:14 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ron Paul has some great ideas about constitutionality in government, but he’s way too far out there on the fringe insofar as Iraq and Afghanistan are concerned. I have yet to hear how he’d take the fight to al-Qaeda. It’s rather difficult to “declare war” on a non-state entity.


32 posted on 12/31/2009 5:59:52 AM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: driftdiver
“They’re terrorists because we’re occupiers,” Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, said on the Larry King show:

And we occupied Afghanistan WHEN before 9/11?

33 posted on 12/31/2009 6:01:41 AM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: ScottinVA

“And we occupied Afghanistan WHEN before 9/11? “

And thats an example of how Dr Paul is a wacko.


34 posted on 12/31/2009 6:10:11 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ron Paul is the only Federal legislator whose ideas resemble any of those of the Founding Fathers...including the admonition about involving ourselves in foreign affairs.

There simply is no need for the depths of our involvment in the overseas oil markets that have led us to a condition of nearly “perpetual war” in a region of the world permantly wedded to hatred.


35 posted on 12/31/2009 6:14:00 AM PST by mo
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To: mo; All

May I point out that our “founders” was not a bunch of Isolationist nutjobs??? TJ sent the Navy to deal with The Barbary Pirates (our first war on terror) instead of giving them bribes...


36 posted on 12/31/2009 6:27:54 AM PST by KevinDavis (Can't Stop the Signal!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ron Paul is a Weasel! Get over him!

Sarah Palin is a Rock Star!


37 posted on 12/31/2009 6:47:18 AM PST by CalTexan
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To: KevinDavis

“Thomas Jefferson, United States minister to France, opposed the payment of tribute....”

We pay tribute....every day...in every way...dollars, blood, lives, time,attention and future treasury to a part of the world with which we, by virtue of the natural resources we have in abundance, HAVE NO NEED TO DO SO in any way, shape or form.

TJ at least put an end to tribute and lives in one relatively short expedition...and if anything today because of how our elected representatives have chosen to deal with these issues so far, there is no end in sight other than what Ron Paul rationally proposes .


38 posted on 12/31/2009 6:49:13 AM PST by mo
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To: Daveinyork
In a rational world Russia wouldn't be helping an insane neighbor - Iran - to get weapons that might get used against Moscow.

Communism is the tool of Satan to wreck havoc across the planet.

39 posted on 12/31/2009 7:05:38 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I agree with his stand on the fed and the economy - his foreign policy is left field


40 posted on 12/31/2009 7:15:27 AM PST by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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