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Healthcare Reform Passes (Ron Paul)
U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, 14th District ^ | 2010-03-22

Posted on 03/22/2010 10:04:01 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Following months of heated public debate and aggressive closed-door negotiations, Congress finally cast a historic vote on healthcare late Sunday evening. It was truly a sad weekend on the House floor as we witnessed further dismantling of the Constitution, disregard of the will of the people, explosive expansion of the reach of government, unprecedented corporate favoritism, and the impending end of quality healthcare as we know it.

Those in favor of this bill touted their good intentions of ensuring quality healthcare for all Americans, as if those of us against the bill are against good medical care. They cite fanciful statistics of deficit reduction, while simultaneously planning to expand the already struggling medical welfare programs we currently have. They somehow think that healthcare in this country will be improved by swelling our welfare rolls and cutting reimbursement payments to doctors who are already losing money. It is estimated that thousands of doctors will be economically forced out of the profession should this government fuzzy math actually try to become healthcare reality. No one has thought to ask what good mandatory health insurance will be if people can’t find a doctor.

Legislative hopes and dreams don’t always stand up well against economic realities.

Frustratingly, this legislation does not deal at all with the real reasons access to healthcare is a struggle for so many – the astronomical costs. If tort reform was seriously discussed, if the massive regulatory burden on healthcare was reduced and reformed, if the free market was allowed to function and apply downward pressure on healthcare costs as it does with everything else, perhaps people wouldn’t be so beholden to insurance companies in the first place. If costs were lowered, more people could simply pay for what they need out of pocket, as they were able to do before government got so involved. Instead, in the name of going after greedy insurance companies, the federal government is going to make people even more beholden to them by mandating that everyone buy their product! Hefty fines are due from anyone found to have committed the heinous crime of not being a customer of a health insurance company. We will need to hire some 16,500 new IRS agents to police compliance with all these new mandates and administer various fines. So in government terms, this is also a jobs bill. Never mind that this program is also likely to cost the private sector some 5 million jobs.

Of course, the most troubling aspect of this bill is that it is so blatantly unconstitutional and contrary to the ideals of liberty. Nowhere in the constitution is there anything approaching authority for the Federal government to do any of this. The founders would have been horrified at the idea of government forcing citizens to become consumers of a particular product from certain government approved companies. 38 states are said to already be preparing legal and constitutional challenges to this legislation, and if the courts stand by their oaths, they will win. Protecting the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, should be the court’s responsibility. Citizens have a responsibility over their own life, but they also have the liberty to choose how they will live and protect their lives. Healthcare choices are a part of liberty, another part that is being stripped away. Government interference in healthcare has already infringed on choices available to people, but rather than getting out of the way, it is entrenching itself, and its corporatist cronies, even more deeply.


TOPICS: Issues
KEYWORDS: awol; braindeadzombiecult; liebertarians; mia; obamacare; paulestinians; paultards; poseurs; rlc; ronpaul; ronpaultruthfile; selfpromotion; trollboy; youknowhesnuts

1 posted on 03/22/2010 10:04:01 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: bamahead; djsherin; Bokababe

fyi


2 posted on 03/22/2010 10:04:16 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ron Paul is right on target here.


3 posted on 03/22/2010 10:06:37 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

Agreed. Great summation of why this is a disaster for our country.


4 posted on 03/22/2010 10:08:28 PM PDT by TigerBait
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To: Yardstick

Ron Paul is right on target here.


He sure nailed this one.

I think he’s right about a lot of things.


5 posted on 03/22/2010 10:18:57 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: rabscuttle385

Some of these GOP Attorneys General are in states with libtard Governors, so it will be fun to watch the political battles that are created from all of this.


6 posted on 03/22/2010 10:20:46 PM PDT by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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To: SoCalPol; Allegra; fieldmarshaldj
No one has thought to ask what good mandatory health insurance will be if people can’t find a doctor.

LOLOLOLOL.

Where's RON PAULTARD been? THAT'S the very question and point every Republican vociferously engaged in the fight against obamacare were making and rhetorically asking for months!

And yet, this idiot claims NO ONE thought to ask....LOL.

7 posted on 03/22/2010 10:23:20 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: onyx

8 posted on 03/22/2010 10:25:30 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: onyx; SoCalPol; fieldmarshaldj; La Enchiladita
Where's RON PAULTARD been? THAT'S the very question and point every Republican vociferously engaged in the fight against obamacare were making and rhetorically asking for months!

I know...the Ron Paul Cult acts like he's shedding some new light on all of this. True conservatives have been saying these things for nearly a year, but the cult only hears it when their little demigod speaks...long after the conservatives have already spoken.

9 posted on 03/22/2010 10:27:18 PM PDT by Allegra (SEIU delenda est)
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To: rabscuttle385

Since the President is undertaking what can only be called a campaign tour not only to sell this garbage of a bill but to press that the Dems that voted for it should retain their jobs in November.

Perhaps Paul should declare his intent to once again run for PRESIDENT and is beginning his Campaign now.


10 posted on 03/22/2010 10:28:22 PM PDT by pennboricua
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To: SoCalPol

Paultard is a doctor. You’d think he would have been on the forefront of the fight against obamacare, but he was MIA. He’s truly anti-war of any kind, even while our Liberty was at stake. Liebertarian Loon is right.


11 posted on 03/22/2010 10:30:01 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: lawnguy

I am here in Seattle and I’m so proud that our AG Rob McKenna is standing on the right side with the other ten states.

On the news tonight, he was on and also our libtard govermatrix. She said, “I don’t know who he thinks he’s representing. He certainly isn’t representing me.”

The creep was only elected through her illegal ballot stuffing.


12 posted on 03/22/2010 10:33:21 PM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: Allegra; SoCalPol; fieldmarshaldj; La Enchiladita
I know...the Ron Paul Cult acts like he's shedding some new light on all of this. True conservatives have been saying these things for nearly a year, but the cult only hears it when their little demigod speaks...long after the conservatives have already spoken.

Paultard is a church mouse weasel. Pathetic.

Too cowardly and self-preserving to run under the Libertarian party. He needs the GOP for a platform.

13 posted on 03/22/2010 10:33:35 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: Allegra; onyx

Do you think the old fellow is getting forgetful
or just the usual me first, LOL


14 posted on 03/22/2010 10:33:44 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Allegra; onyx

15 posted on 03/22/2010 10:35:29 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol; Allegra
Do you think the old fellow is getting forgetful or just the usual me first, LOL

LOL. The old fellow. Maybe he's ready for a sewing circle. The guy is full of himself, just like all cult leaders.

16 posted on 03/22/2010 10:40:44 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: onyx; SoCalPol
Too cowardly and self-preserving to run under the Libertarian party. He needs the GOP for a platform.

He and his acolytes appear to want to destroy the GOP from within.

They are no friends to the conservatives. They trash Republicans regularly, but you rarely hear them criticize the Democrats, except for in cases like this health care reform, when they know that at least 70% of the population does not want it.

You're right - I see no courage. Only self-promotion.

17 posted on 03/22/2010 10:41:08 PM PDT by Allegra (SEIU delenda est)
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To: SoCalPol

That says all anyone needs to know about Paultard to know he’s nuts.


18 posted on 03/22/2010 10:42:53 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: Allegra; onyx

As Ron Paul says Iran and North Korea are not a threat,
Nuclear missiles, hey no problem.
But just watch out for those Republcans.
We must get our own missles also, then we won’t be a threat.


19 posted on 03/22/2010 10:47:31 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Allegra; SoCalPol
He and his acolytes appear to want to destroy the GOP from within.
They are no friends to the conservatives. They trash Republicans regularly, but you rarely hear them criticize the Democrats, except for in cases like this health care reform, when they know that at least 70% of the population does not want it.

Truer words rarely posted here!

PAULTARDS masquarade as conservatives, but they're not. Third party Libertarians are no friends of ours and that's why PAULTARD uses the GOP. He's not an honest man. He's a fraud, just like the so-called pro-life Stupak has always been a fraud.

PAULTARD'S PAULTARDS vote third party, and we're onto their divide and conquer mission. One of the oldest, weakest and most transparent games around here.

Over-used term, but, EPIC FAIL.

20 posted on 03/22/2010 10:53:24 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: rabscuttle385

No one has thought to ask what good mandatory health insurance will be if people can’t find a doctor.

Under the circumstances, Ron, I hate to argue, but the hell they haven’t. The people have examined the bill and asked all the pertinent, and impertinent questions, and gotten nothing in response but an ocean going tanker load of liquid manure.


21 posted on 03/22/2010 11:03:06 PM PDT by wita
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To: SoCalPol; Allegra
As Ron Paul says Iran and North Korea are not a threat, Nuclear missiles, hey no problem.
But just watch out for those Republcans. We must get our own missles also, then we won’t be a threat.

LOLOLOLOLOL.

I can't find that pic of him with the stupid helmet. It needs a propeller on top, IIRC. LOL.

22 posted on 03/22/2010 11:06:57 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: onyx; SoCalPol; La Enchiladita
I think the reason ol' L. Ron was quiet about this abomination of a bill until now is because he was secretly hoping it would pass.

Secretly hoping some Republicans would break ranks and vote for it, so that all of a sudden, the libertarians would become the big heroes and we would beg for L. Ron Paul and his acolytes to swoop in and save the day.

Not gonna happen, L. Ron. You're not fooling anybody except that 5% - 7% that comprises your cult.

23 posted on 03/22/2010 11:09:11 PM PDT by Allegra (SEIU delenda est)
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To: angry elephant
Do you guys have some kind of Health care plan in Washington? What am I thinking of here?

Also props to your AG, I wonder how the issue polls in Washington, which I always think of as a liberal mecca?

24 posted on 03/22/2010 11:18:43 PM PDT by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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To: Allegra; SoCalPol; La Enchiladita

You could most certainly be right, Allegra!

Something kept him out of the fight that was custom made for Doctor Paul, but he was as quiet as a church mouse.

Perhaps he couldn’t find a conspiracy embedded in it, but Lord knows the overthrow of our Republic should have got his juices running, right? Nope. I guess he was too busy chasing ghosts in the Fed to bother with obamacare and it’s Constitutional perils.

He’s shameful and a coward.


25 posted on 03/22/2010 11:20:35 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: boycott

“I think he’s right about a lot of things.”

Quite a few things domestically and economically.


26 posted on 03/22/2010 11:28:38 PM PDT by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: onyx

Geeez....give the anti-Paul thing a break, would you? The man is right on target here.


27 posted on 03/22/2010 11:44:50 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SoCalPol

Obviously he’s right. The biggest threat isn’t N. Korea or Iran. But our own Gov’t. Something he’s always talked about.


28 posted on 03/23/2010 2:28:38 AM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: Palter

So, another NewBie, leftwing troll.


29 posted on 03/23/2010 12:23:39 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Palter; SoCalPol
The biggest threat isn’t N. Korea or Iran. But our own Gov’t. Something he’s always talked about.

Quite the opposite, pal. All the hoopla over the deathcare bill was distraction from the real, more serious problems of nuclear Iran and spiralling deficit, not to mention an increasingly belligerent Russia. Now, ol' Cut and Run could care less about nuclear Iran or any of that foreign stuff but he should have been out front bleating about the spiralling deficit. He wasn't.

30 posted on 03/23/2010 3:12:32 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Depose the Queen: support the conservative congressional candidate(s) of your choice.)
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To: onyx; Allegra; SoCalPol; Windflier
Paultard is a doctor. You’d think he would have been on the forefront of the fight against obamacare, but he was MIA.

Come to think of it, what has RonPaul the Liebertarian ever actually accomplished? Nothing, that's what. He brings home the earmarks like so many other career politicians, all while fraudulently wearing the GOP label. I have asked his followers here countless times to name even one bill he has sponsored or passed --- during all the years off and on that he has warmed a seat in Congress --- that supports his call for "fiscal responsibility." No answer.

I really think it's up to some leading Republicans to speak up and call him out for the phony hanger-on that he is.

31 posted on 03/23/2010 3:19:24 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Depose the Queen: support the conservative congressional candidate(s) of your choice.)
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To: La Enchiladita; Palter

You are correct La E.

and Ron Paul who condemns and trashes Israel, our ally
just as the Left wing. The Republicans who stand in support of Israel as did the GOP candidates in 08.

Now Benjamin Netanyahu who is in the U.S. to explain why their settlements must be safe.
Netanyahu, a graduate of Cheltenham High School in Philadelphia and a Grad. of MIT in Massachusetts.
At least the Republicans support Netayahu while Ron Paul and the Far Left condemn him.


32 posted on 03/23/2010 3:32:10 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Allegra
He and his acolytes appear to want to destroy the GOP from within.

This is a hilarious statement. Perhaps you all should look at the damage that the neocons have done to the GOP and the country as a whole and see that they are the ones who have actually destroyed the GOP from within.

33 posted on 03/25/2010 11:25:07 AM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: rabscuttle385

As usual, Rep. Paul is absolutely correct.


34 posted on 03/25/2010 11:36:34 AM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: La Enchiladita
Come to think of it, what has RonPaul the Liebertarian ever actually accomplished?

Having integrity and a consistent voting record that demonstrates opposition to massive government. No other Republican politician can claim to have anything close to that. The 'conservatives' just continue to grow government the way they like it.

35 posted on 03/25/2010 11:39:13 AM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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