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The FReeper Foxhole Studies Aerial Demonstration Teams - Part Two - Thunderbirds - Dec. 5th, 2003
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Posted on 12/05/2003 12:00:48 AM PST by SAMWolf



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Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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for all those serving their country at this time.



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In 1947, while the jet age was still in its infancy, military aviation was hurtled into the future with the creation of the U.S. Air Force as a separate service. Just six years later, on May 25, 1953, the Air Force’s official air demonstration team, designated the 3600th Air Demonstration Unit, was activated at Luke Air Force Base, Arizona.

The name “Thunderbirds” was soon adopted by the unit; influenced in part by the strong Indian culture and folklore of the southwestern United States where Luke is located. Indian legend speaks of the Thunderbird with great fear and respect. To some it was a giant eagle … others envisioned a hawk. When it took to the skies, the earth trembled from the thunder of its great wings.



From its eyes shot bolts of lightning. Nothing in nature could challenge the bird of thunder, the story said, and no man could stand against its might. The story of the Thunderbird was repeated, voice-by-voice, across the generations, until at last, it assumed the immortality of legend.

A more appropriate name couldn't have been selected, as it is with the same commanding presence the Thunderbirds took to the skies. Seven officers and 22 enlisted were selected for the first demonstration team, most were handpicked from the cadre at Luke.

Maj. Dick Catledge, a training squadron commander at Luke, was chosen as the team’s leader. Twins Bill and Buck Patillo were selected and would fly left and right wing, respectively. The Patillo's, both captains, were ideal choices as both had been with the “SkyBlazers”, a USAF/Europe demonstration team, for the past 3 years.



For the difficult position of slot, the position sandwiched between both wingmen and behind the leader, Capt. Bob Kanaga was selected, an instructor at Luke. The spare pilot would be Capt. Bob McCormick. Like the Patillo brothers, he also had demonstration team experience, having flown right wing with the “Sabre Dancers,” a predecessor to the Thunderbirds.



1st Lt. Aubrey Brown would serve as maintenance officer for the team. He, with his senior enlisted man, MSgt. Earl Young, selected 21 enlisted men to help maintain the team’s aircraft. Capt. Bill Brock was the final officer selected for the team serving as the information services officer and team narrator.

From these humble beginnings and this group of men, the Air Force Thunderbird legend was born.

The first aircraft selected for the new demonstration team was the straight wing F-84G Thunderjet built by Republic Aviation.


F-84G

Their straight wing configuration was considered well suited for aerobatic maneuvers, and although the aircraft could not exceed the speed of sound, like some military aircraft, it easily met the needs of a demonstration aircraft.

The original demonstration sequence consisted of a series of formation aerobatics lasting 15 minutes. The spare pilot took-off a few minutes in advance of the Diamond to run a weather check, advise of any encroaching traffic, reiterate the location of obstructions and then landed to be used as a spare aircraft.



As the season progressed, the opportunity was utilized to perform ‘solo’ maneuvers with the spare aircraft while the Diamond burned off fuel and repositioned out of sight of the crowd.


F-84F


Mindful of their mission to show the Air Force’s best aircraft, the Air Force selected the swept wing F-84F Thunderstreak as their second aircraft in 1955. The Thunderstreak was modified for the team by adding smoke tanks for the first time, and red, white and blue drag chutes.

With the move from the F-84F to the F-100 Super Sabre in 1956, the Thunderbirds became the world’s first supersonic aerial demonstration team. That same year, the Thunderbirds moved to Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, simplifying logistics and maintenance for the aircraft.


F-100


Although never a routine part of the Thunderbird show in 1956, the solo would fly supersonic at the request of the air show sponsor. Eventually, the Federal Aviation Authority, a precursor to the Federal Aviation Administration, banned all supersonic flight at air shows and consequently, today’s sequence is entirely subsonic.

Almost a footnote in the history of Thunderbird aviation, the Republic-built F-105B Thunderchief performed only six shows between April 26 and May 9, 1964. Extensive modifications to the F-105 were necessary, and rather than cancel the rest of the show season to accomplish this, the Thunderbirds quickly transitioned back to the Super Sabre. While the switch back to the F-100D was supposed to be temporary, the F-105 never returned to the Thunderbird hangar. The F-100 ended up staying with the team for nearly 13 years.


F-105B


The Thunderbirds started the 1969 training season still in the F-100Ds, but in the spring of 1969 the team received the first of the new McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantom IIs and began the team’s conversion.

The F-4’s conversion was the most extensive in the team’s history. Among other modifications, paints that had worked on the F-100 made the F-4 look patchy because of multicolored alloys used in the F-4 to resist heat and friction at Mach II speeds.



As a result, a polyurethane paint base was developed and used to cover the problem. The white paint base remains a part of today’s Thunderbird aircraft.

Compared with its predecessors, the F-4 was immense. It was big. It was heavy. It was powerful. With the earth-shaking roar of eight J-79 engines from the four diamond aircraft, no demonstration aircraft accomplished the mission of representing American airpower more impressively than the Phantom.



1974 brought with it a fuel crisis and as a result a new aircraft for the team, the sleek, swift and highly maneuverable Northrop T-38A Talon, the Air Force’s first supersonic trainer. Economically, the T-38 was unmatched. Five T-38s used the same amount of fuel needed for one F-4 Phantom, and fewer people and less equipment were required to maintain the aircraft.

Although the Talon did not fulfill the Thunderbird tradition of flying front-line jet fighters, it did meet the criteria of demonstrating the capabilities of a prominent Air Force aircraft.



The T-38A was used throughout the Air Force during this time period in a variety of roles because of its design, economy of operation, ease of maintenance, high performance and exceptional safety record. In fact, Air Force fighter pilots still use this aircraft during undergraduate pilot training today.

In honor of the nation’s 200th birthday in 1976, the Thunderbirds were designated as the official United States Bicentennial Organization. For the Bicentennial year only, the aircraft numbers were moved to the fuselage and the Bicentennial symbol replaced the numbers on the tail.

In 1983, the team returned to the tradition of flying a premier fighter aircraft; transitioning to the General Dynamics, later Lockheed Martin’s, F-16A Fighting Falcon. To ready the F-16 involved removing the radar and internally mounted 20mm cannon and installing a smoke-generating system.



Remaining true to its character to showcase the latest advancement in America’s fighter technology, in 1992 the team transitioned to Lockheed Martin’s advanced F-16C, the team’s ninth aircraft. With the team’s last demonstration in the F-16A, the Thunderbirds were the last active duty unit to use the A model.

The C model looks similar to its predecessor, but has upgraded avionics and radar systems, making it superior to the A model. A true multi-role fighter, the F-16C has an unequaled record in actual air-to-air combat. Additionally, it is the only fighter to win both of the Air Force’s premier competitions - Gunsmoke, air-to-ground and William Tell, air superiority.



The F-16 has remained the choice of the Thunderbirds for the last 20 years, the longest performance era of any one aircraft. It is a stellar performer for the Thunderbirds, the U.S. Air Force and the 24 other nations whose boundaries it patrols and defends.










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To: SAMWolf
A beautiful thread today, as always.
101 posted on 12/05/2003 11:52:49 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: All
If I am not mistaken, the pilot of the red white and blue BD5-J is a retired F-4 Phantom II driver who also flew with the Blue Angels. I've seen his airshow ads in the aviation press.
(From the beginning narrative) "Although never a routine part of the Thunderbird show in 1956, the solo would fly supersonic at the request of the air show sponsor. Eventually, the Federal Aviation Authority, a precursor to the Federal Aviation Administration, banned all supersonic flight at air shows and consequently, today’s sequence is entirely subsonic."

A few years ago at the Reno Air Races, the Air Force sent a solo F-16 demonstration pilot to entertain the crowd between races. After a few routine maneuvers, the show narrator announced that "Captain X will now make a 700 mph high speed pass down show center." I thought to myself, "This ought to be interesting." Another member of the aviation cognoscentii seated next to me said, "Remind me what the speed of sound is." I replied "760 mph at sea level and standard temperature." He asked "What's the field elevation here?" "About 5,200 feet" I told him. "I wonder what the speed of sound is at 5,200 (BOOM! - BOOM!)feet? (Laughing) "It must be a bit less than 700mph, I guess." The airshow announcer tried to cover the pilot's tracks by announcing "We would like to thank the US Navy for their generous donation of the invisible explosives used in this high speed pass." Nonetheless, everyone knew what had just happened. During Sunday's performance, his name was announced as Captain Boom Boom. He throttled back on the high speed pass that day.
102 posted on 12/05/2003 11:53:19 AM PST by kilowhskey
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To: Pukin Dog
Thanks Pukin Dog. Snippy did all the work. I just posted it for her while she's on vacation.
103 posted on 12/05/2003 12:02:33 PM PST by SAMWolf (Study Art and Logic - and learn to draw your own conclusions)
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To: Pukin Dog
Thanks Pukin Dog, good to see you in the Foxhole!
104 posted on 12/05/2003 12:04:12 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: kilowhskey
Cool!
105 posted on 12/05/2003 12:04:34 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: kilowhskey
The airshow announcer tried to cover the pilot's tracks by announcing "We would like to thank the US Navy for their generous donation of the invisible explosives used in this high speed pass."

LOL! I can remember when sonic booms were a regular occurrance.

106 posted on 12/05/2003 12:04:58 PM PST by SAMWolf (Study Art and Logic - and learn to draw your own conclusions)
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To: snippy_about_it
Been away too long. I started posting only on threads that pissed me off. I'm back now.
107 posted on 12/05/2003 12:07:29 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: All

108 posted on 12/05/2003 12:10:04 PM PST by SAMWolf (Study Art and Logic - and learn to draw your own conclusions)
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To: kilowhskey
700mph pass at a 5200ft ground level strip..
*Dies laughing*
109 posted on 12/05/2003 12:14:09 PM PST by Darksheare (Ignore the wombats, they're a diversion! My 3 million psychotic chinchilla army is the real threat!)
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To: Pukin Dog
Good to see you back.
Sit back and relax some.
And chuckle at the wombat artillery.
110 posted on 12/05/2003 12:14:55 PM PST by Darksheare (Ignore the wombats, they're a diversion! My 3 million psychotic chinchilla army is the real threat!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Good to have ya back.

111 posted on 12/05/2003 12:15:21 PM PST by SAMWolf (Study Art and Logic - and learn to draw your own conclusions)
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To: Darksheare

112 posted on 12/05/2003 12:19:47 PM PST by SAMWolf (Study Art and Logic - and learn to draw your own conclusions)
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To: Pukin Dog
Glad to have you back. :)
113 posted on 12/05/2003 12:31:53 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Okay, okay.. so I AM out of my mind.
But hey, consider the experiences I have with it!
*chuckle*
/ joke.
115 posted on 12/05/2003 12:36:19 PM PST by Darksheare (Ignore the wombats, they're a diversion! My 3 million psychotic chinchilla army is the real threat!)
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To: SAMWolf; Prof Engineer
Hmm..
"Wombat crossing" may fit as a keyword somewhere too..
But.. tagline says it all.
116 posted on 12/05/2003 12:40:19 PM PST by Darksheare ("We're Wombat Artillery! We go anywhere, dig wherever we want, and we look cute & fuzzy too!")
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To: SAMWolf
Sweet!
117 posted on 12/05/2003 12:41:51 PM PST by Prof Engineer (Labrador Retriever~from The Latin, meaning~ Affection Sponge)
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To: All
If you ever left a message on an answering machine you can do this!
It's really that simple. AND It's a Toll Free Number !


Send deployed troops message on SoldiersRadio.com

SoldiersRadio is again this year providing a way to let you tell Service members worldwide that you care and are thinking about them during the Holidays.

You can do an Audio Post Card simply by calling 1-800-330-5090.
Your recorded personalized message will be played back on www.SoldiersRadio.com.

You can record a short message (30 seconds) to friends, family members or just a random message of good will. SoldiersRadio will then take your message and put it on the radio Web cast throughout the Holiday Season. Its very simple to do and works both ways ... from the field or to the Service member.

AnyServiceMember.org is also promoting the call-in holiday service in hopes of reaching a large group of people who would like to send a message to Soldiers serving away from home.

The cut-off date for the call in is Dec.15.
SoldiersRadio.com


118 posted on 12/05/2003 12:48:41 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: SAMWolf
Thanks for the Air Force thread.
I got to fly in the back seat of a T38 in '69. Man!
Is there a total list of all who served in the Thunderbirds?
I only know one,Stan Musser who was in ROTC with me.
119 posted on 12/05/2003 12:50:04 PM PST by larryjohnson (USAF(Ret))
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To: SAMWolf

Turkish Stars F5

120 posted on 12/05/2003 2:17:34 PM PST by Light Speed
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