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The Goliad Massacre, the tragic termination of the Goliad Campaign of 1836, is of all the episodes of the Texas Revolution the most infamous. Though not as salient as the battle of the Alamo, the massacre immeasurably garnered support for the cause against Mexico both within Texas and in the United States, thus contributing greatly to the Texan victory at the battle of San Jacinto and sustaining the independence of the Republic of Texas. The execution of James W. Fannin, Jr.'s, command in the Goliad Massacre was not without precedent, however, and Mexican president and general Antonio López de Santa Anna, who ultimately ordered the exterminations, was operating within Mexican law. Therefore, the massacre cannot be considered isolated from the events and legislation preceding it. ![]() Mission at La Bahia (now Goliad) As he prepared to subdue the Texas colonists Santa Anna was chiefly concerned with the help they expected from the United States. His solution was tested after November 15, 1835, when Gen. José Antonio Mexía attacked Tampico with three companies enlisted at New Orleans. One company, badly led, broke ranks at the beginning of Mexía's action, and half its number, together with wounded men from other companies, were captured by Santa Anna's forces the next day. Twenty-eight of them were tried as pirates, convicted, and, on December 14, 1835, shot. Four weeks elapsed between their capture and their execution, enabling Santa Anna to gauge in advance the reaction of New Orleans to their fate. It was, on the whole, that in shooting these prisoners, Mexico was acting within its rights. Believing that he had found an effective deterrent to expected American help for Texas, Santa Anna sought and obtained from the Mexican Congress the decree of December 30, 1835, which directed that all foreigners taken in arms against the government should be treated as pirates and shot. Santa Anna's main army took no prisoners; execution of the murderous decree of December 30, 1835, fell to Gen. José de Urrea, commander of Santa Anna's right wing. The first prisoners taken by Urrea were the survivors of Francis W. Johnson's party, captured at and near San Patricio on February 27, 1836. Urrea, according to his contemporary Reuben M. Potter, "was not blood thirsty and when not overruled by orders of a superior, or stirred by irritation, was disposed to treat prisoners with lenity." When the Mexican general reported to Santa Anna that he was holding the San Patricio prisoners, Santa Anna ordered Urrea to comply with the decree of December 30. Urrea complied to the extent of issuing an order to shoot his prisoners, along with those captured in the battle of Agua Dulce Creek, but he had no stomach for such cold-blooded killing; and when Father Thomas J. Malloy, priest of the Irish colonists, protested the execution, Urrea remitted the prisoners to Matamoros, asking Santa Anna's pardon for having done so and washing his hands of their fate. ![]() At Refugio on March 15, 1836, Urrea was again confronted with the duty of complying with the fatal decree of December 30. Thirty-three Americans were captured in the course of the fighting at Nuestra Señora del Refugio Mission, half of them with Capt. Amon B. King's company, the others "one by one". King and his men had infuriated their enemies by burning local ranchos and shooting eight Mexicans seated around a campfire, and these enemies were clamoring for vengeance. Urrea satisfied his conscience by shooting King and fourteen of his men, while "setting at liberty all who were colonists or Mexicans." A more difficult situation confronted him on March 20 after James W. Fannin's surrender. Fannin's men had agreed upon and reduced to writing the terms upon which they proposed to capitulate. The gist of these was that Fannin and his men, including his officers and the wounded, should be treated as prisoners of war according to the usages of civilized nations and, as soon as possible, paroled and returned to the United States. In view of Santa Anna's positive orders, Urrea could not, of course, accede to these terms, but refusing them would mean another bloody battle. Fannin's men possessed, besides their rifles, 500 spare muskets and nine brass cannons and, if told that it would mean death to surrender, could sell their lives at fearful cost and might cut their way through Urrea's lines. When the Mexican and Texan commissioners seeking surrender terms failed to agree, Urrea shortened the conference by dealing directly with Fannin and proposing written terms, under which the Texans should give up their arms and become prisoners of war "at the disposal of the Supreme Mexican Government." He assured Fannin that there was no known instance where a prisoner of war who had trusted to the clemency of the Mexican government had lost his life, that he would recommend to General Santa Anna acceptance of the terms proposed by Fannin's men, and that he was confident of obtaining Santa Anna's approval within a period of eight days. Fannin, who could not have done much else-Urrea had received reinforcements and artillery that would have devastated the Texan position in an open prairie on ground lower than the Mexican lines-accepted Urrea's proposals but did not inform his men of the conditional nature of these terms. On the other hand, Maj. Juan José Holsinger, one of the Mexican commissioners, lulled their suspicions by entering the Texan lines with the greeting, "Well, gentlemen! In eight days, home and liberty!" ![]() James Walker Fannin Fannin's men delivered up their arms, and some 230 or 240 uninjured or slightly wounded men were marched back to Goliad and imprisoned in the chapel of Nuestra Señora de Loreto Presidio at La Bahía, the fort they had previously occupied. The wounded Texans, about fifty (some estimates are much higher) including doctors and orderlies, Colonel Fannin among them, were returned to Goliad over the next two days. On March 22 William Ward, who with Amon B. King had been defeated in the battle of Refugio, surrendered near Dimitt's Landing on the terms accorded Fannin, and he and about eighty of his men of the Georgia Battalion were added to the Goliad prisoners on March 25. Urrea, in compliance with his promise, wrote to Santa Anna from Guadalupe Victoria, informing him that Fannin and his men were prisoners of war "at the disposal of the Supreme Mexican Government" and recommending clemency; but he reported nothing in his letter of the terms that Fannin and his men had drafted for their surrender. Santa Anna replied to Urrea's clemency letter on March 23 by ordering immediate execution of these "perfidious foreigners" and repeated the order in a letter the next day. Meantime, on March 23, evidently doubting Urrea's willingness to serve as executioner, Santa Anna sent a direct order to the "Officer Commanding the Post of Goliad" to execute the prisoners in his hands. This order was received on March 26 by Col. José Nicolás de la Portilla, whom Urrea had left at Goliad. Two hours later Portilla received another order, this one from Urrea, "to treat the prisoners with consideration, and especially their leader, Fannin," and to employ them in rebuilding the town. But when he wrote this seemingly humane order, Urrea well knew that Portilla would not be able to comply with it, for on March 25, after receiving Santa Anna's letter, Urrea had ordered reinforcements that would have resulted in too large a diminution of the garrison for the prisoners to be employed on public works. ![]() Gen. José de Urrea Portilla suffered an unquiet night weighing these conflicting orders, but he concluded that he was bound to obey Santa Anna's order and directed that the prisoners be shot at dawn. At sunrise on Palm Sunday, March 27, 1836, the unwounded Texans were formed into three groups under heavy guard commanded by Capt. Pedro (Luis?) Balderas, Capt. Antonio Ramírez, and first adjutant Agustín Alcérrica (a colonel in the Tres Villas Battalion in April 1836). The largest group, including what remained of Ward's Georgia Battalion and Capt. Burr H. Duval's company, was marched toward the upper ford of the San Antonio River on the Bexar road. The San Antonio Greys, Mobile Greys, and others were marched along the Victoria road in the direction of the lower ford. Capt. John Shackelford's Red Rovers and Ira J. Westover's regulars were marched southwestwardly along the San Patricio road. The guard, which was to serve also as a firing squad, included the battalions of Tres Villas and Yucatán, dismounted cavalry, and pickets from the Cuautla, Tampico, and Durango regiments. The prisoners held little suspicion of their fate, for they had been told a variety of stories-they were to gather wood, drive cattle, be marched to Matamoros, or proceed to the port of Copano for passage to New Orleans. Only the day before, Fannin himself, with his adjutant general, Joseph M. Chadwick, had returned from Copano, where, accompanied by Holsinger and other Mexican officers, they had tried to charter the vessel on which William P. Miller's Nashville Battalion had arrived earlier (these men had been captured and imprisoned at Goliad, also). Although this was really an attempt by Urrea to commandeer the ship, the vessel had already departed. Still, Fannin became cheerful and reported to his men that the Mexicans were making arrangements for their departure. The troops sang "Home Sweet Home" on the night of March 26. ![]() Generalissimo Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna At selected spots on each of the three roads, from half to three-fourths of a mile from the presidio, the three groups were halted. The guard on the right of the column of prisoners then countermarched and formed with the guard on the left. At a prearranged moment, or upon a given signal, the guards fired upon the prisoners at a range too close to miss. Nearly all were killed at the first fire. Those not killed were pursued and slaughtered by gunfire, bayonet, or lance. Fannin and some forty (Peña estimated eighty or ninety) wounded Texans unable to march were put to death within the presidio under the direction of Capt. Carolino Huerta of the Tres Villas battalion. From two groups shot on the river roads, those not instantly killed fled to the woods along the stream, and twenty-four managed to escape. The third group, on the San Patricio road, was farther from cover; only four men from it are known to have escaped. A man-by-man study of Fannin's command indicates that 342 were executed at Goliad on March 27. Only twenty-eight escaped the firing squads, and twenty more were spared as physicians, orderlies, interpreters, or mechanics largely because of the entreaties of a "high bred beauty" whom the Texans called the "Angel of Goliad", and the brave and kindly intervention of Col. Francisco Garay. Many of those who eventually escaped were first recaptured and later managed a second escape. Two physicians, Joseph H. Barnard and John Shackelford, were taken to San Antonio to treat Mexican wounded from the battle of the Alamo; they later escaped. ![]() Dr. Jack Shackleford Portilla wrote that the total number of his prisoners was 445, exclusive of William P. Miller's eighty men, who had been captured without arms at Copano and were thus to be spared. Texan sources specify the number of prisoners as 407, exclusive of Miller's men. This may have been correct. Some of the prisoners taken at Refugio but not executed with King's men are known to have been at Goliad, where they were again spared because they were serving the Mexican army as blacksmiths, wheelwrights, or other artisans. The exact fate of others captured at Refugio is not known. They may have been added to the prisoners at Goliad and killed with Fannin on March 27. Urrea detained about twenty of Ward's men to build boats at Guadalupe Victoria, and Señora Alavez intervened with her husband, Col. Telesforo Alavez, whom Urrea left in charge of this village, to spare their lives as well; they afterward escaped. About a week after the Goliad killings, Santa Anna ordered the execution of Miller and his men and the others who had been spared at Goliad, but he rescinded the order the next day. The men were marched instead to Matamoros after the battle of San Jacinto. Though some managed to escape en route, most remained there until the Mexican government later released them. After the executions the bodies were burned, the remains left exposed to weather, vultures, and coyotes, until June 3, 1836, when Gen. Thomas J. Rusk, who had established his headquarters at Victoria after San Jacinto and was passing through Goliad in pursuit of Gen. Vicente Filisola's retreating army, gathered the remains and buried them with military honors. Some of the survivors attended the ceremony. ![]() Goliad Monument The common grave remained unmarked until about 1858, when a Goliad merchant, George von Dohlen, placed a pile of rocks on what was believed to be the site. In April 1885 a memorial was finally erected, in the city of Goliad rather than on the site, by the Fannin Monument Association, formed by William L. Hunter, a massacre survivor. In 1930 some Goliad Boy Scouts found charred bone fragments that had been unearthed over the years by animals, and an excursion to the site by Goliad residents on New Year's Day, 1932, succeeded in attracting an investigation of the site by University of Texas anthropologist J. E. Pearce. The authenticity of the gravesite was further verified by historians Clarence R. Wharton and Harbert Davenport. In 1936, in celebration of the Texas Centennial, money was appropriated to build a massive pink granite monument, dedicated on June 4, 1938. Davenport presented the address, which was published as "The Men of Goliad" in the Southwestern Historical Quarterly (1939). The impact of the Goliad Massacre was crucial. Until this episode Santa Anna's reputation had been that of a cunning and crafty man, rather than a cruel one. When the Goliad prisoners were taken, Texas had no other army in the field, and the newly constituted ad interim government seemed incapable of forming one. The Texas cause was dependent on the material aid and sympathy of the United States. Had Fannin's and Miller's men been dumped on the wharves at New Orleans penniless, homesick, humiliated, and distressed, and each with his separate tale of Texas mismanagement and incompetence, Texas prestige in the United States would most likely have fallen, along with sources of help. But Portilla's volleys at Goliad, together with the fall of the Alamo, branded both Santa Anna and the Mexican people with a reputation for cruelty and aroused the fury of the people of Texas, the United States, and even Great Britain and France, thus considerably promoting the success of the Texas Revolution.
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The battle of Coleto, the culmination of the Goliad Campaign of 1836, occurred near Coleto Creek in Goliad County on March 19 and 20, 1836. Originally called "the battle of the prairie" and "la batalla del encinal [oak grove] del Perdido [Creek]," it was one of the most significant engagements of the Texas Revolution. The battle, however, cannot properly be considered as isolated from the series of errors and misfortunes that preceded it, errors for which the Texas commander, James W. Fannin, Jr., was ultimately responsible. The most exasperating decision confronting Fannin was whether to abandon Goliad after having fortified it, and if so, when. He had already been informed of Gen. José de Urrea's advancing Mexican army by Plácido Benavides, after the defeat of Texas forces under Francis W. Johnson and James Grant at the battles of San Patricio and Agua Dulce Creek. The Mexican advance caused the Texans to abandon the port of Copano, thus making Goliad considerably less important strategically, as Fannin knew. He had received word that the Alamo had fallen as well. Still, he continued to fortify Fort Defiance, as he christened the La Bahía presidio, and awaited orders from superiors to abandon the site, knowing also that a retreat would not be well received among his men, who were eager to confront the Mexicans.

Since King had taken the Goliad garrison's wagons and teams with him to Refugio, however, Fannin delayed his retreat further, awaiting the arrival of Albert C. Horton's men from Guadalupe Victoria, who were bringing needed carts and twenty yokes of oxen garnered by army quartermaster John J. Linn. Accounts are not in agreement, but Horton apparently arrived by March 16. In addition, by capturing virtually all of Fannin's couriers sent to find King and Ward, Urrea learned the details of the Goliad commander's plans and schemed accordingly. Fannin, however, was unable to find out his opponent's true strength or position, though on March 17 Horton's cavalry did discover Col. Juan Morales approaching with the Jiménez and San Luis battalions, 500 veterans of the battle of the Alamo whom Antonio López de Santa Anna had sent from Bexar to reinforce Urrea.
Fannin finally learned of King and Ward's defeat in the battle of Refugio from Hugh McDonald Frazer on March 17, but he still did not order the retreat to Victoria until the next day. March 18 was spent instead in a series of skirmishes between Horton's cavalry and Urrea's advance forces, which by then had reached Goliad. Fannin, thinking the fort was about to be besieged, kept the garrison on alert and attempted no retreat even that night, the result of a council decision based on Horton's observations. During this delay the oxen, which were to be hitched to the carts made ready for the removal to Victoria, were left unfed.

Urrea had quickly left Goliad without his artillery and the full complement of his force in order to narrow Fannin's two-hour lead. Mexican sources indicate that he set out with eighty cavalrymen and 360 infantrymen. He discovered through his mounted scouts the location of Fannin's column and that the rebel force was considerably smaller than supposed, information that prompted him to return 100 infantrymen to Goliad to help secure Presidio La Bahía and escort the artillery ordered to join him as soon as possible. Horton's approximately thirty cavalrymen served as advance guards on all sides of Fannin's column. The un-alert rear guard, however, which included Hermann Ehrenberg, failed to detect the Mexican cavalry. Meanwhile, the Texans had scarcely resumed march after resting the oxen before another cart broke down; its contents had to be transferred to another wagon. Fannin then sent Horton to scout the Coleto Creek timber, now in sight, when the Mexican cavalry emerged from behind them. Upon overtaking the lumbering Texan position at about 1:30 P.M., the Mexican commander ordered his cavalry to halt Fannin's advance toward the protective timber. Fannin set up a skirmish line with artillery while the column attempted to reach Coleto Creek, about two miles distant.

With little water, and situated in an open prairie covered with high grass that occluded vision of their enemy, Fannin's men made ready their defense. Their hollow square was three ranks deep. Each man received three or four muskets. Bayonets, rifles, more than forty pairs of pistols, and abundant ammunition complemented this arsenal. The San Antonio Greys and Red Rovers formed the front line; Duval's Mustangs and others, including Frazer's Refugio militia, formed the rear. The left flank was defended by Westover's regulars, the right by the Mobile Greys. The artillery was placed in the corners (except when moved as needed), and Fannin assumed a command position in the rear of the right flank. In addition, an outpost of sharpshooters formed around Abel Morgan's hospital wagon, which had become immobilized earlier when an ox was hit by Mexican fire.
Soon after Urrea's cavalry managed to stop Fannin's retreat, the Mexican general amassed his troops and attacked the square. The rifle companies under Morales assaulted the left, the grenadiers and part of the San Luis Battalion charged the right under Urrea's direct supervision, the Jiménez Battalion under Col. Mariano Salas attacked the front, and Col. Gabriel Núñez's cavalry charged the rear.

The battle of Coleto lasted until after sunset on March 19. The Texans made effective use of their bayonets, multiple muskets, and nine cannons; their square remained unbroken. Dr. Joseph H. Barnard recorded that seven of his comrades had been killed and sixty wounded (forty severely), Fannin among them. The Mexican general was impressed with both the "withering fire of the enemy" and their ability to repulse his three charges. Ironically, Urrea retired because of ammunition depletion. His casualties were heavy as well, though accounts vary widely. He then positioned snipers in the tall grass around the square and inflicted additional casualties before Texan sharpshooters were able to quell these attacks by firing at the flashes illuminating the darkness. Ultimately, the Texans under Fannin suffered ten deaths on March 19.
Fannin's men hardly felt defeated and anxiously awaited Horton's return with reinforcements from Guadalupe Victoria. None came, however, for Horton was unable to cut through the Mexican lines. William Ward and the Georgia Battalion, defeated in the battle of Refugio, were close enough to hear the Coleto gunfire during their retreat to Victoria, but were exhausted and hungry. Urrea knew from captured couriers that Ward and Fannin would try to rendezvous at Victoria, so with the aid of Carlos de la Garza's men, he kept the Georgia Battalion isolated in the Guadalupe river bottom until they surrendered. At the Coleto battlefield, Urrea posted detachments at three points around Fannin's square to prevent escape and kept the Texans on stiff watch throughout the night with false bugle calls.

After the Mexican artillery had fired one or possibly two rounds, Fannin was convinced that making another stand would be futile. Another consultation among his officers produced the decision to seek honorable terms for surrender for the sake of the wounded, and to hope the Mexicans would adhere to them. Fannin's men apparently drafted terms of surrender guaranteeing that they would be considered prisoners of war, that their wounded would be treated, and that they sooner or later would be paroled to the United States. But Urrea could not ratify such an agreement; he was bound by Santa Anna's orders and congressional decree to accept no terms other than unconditional surrender. He made it clear to Fannin in person that he could offer only to intercede on the Texans' behalf with Santa Anna. The extant document of capitulation, signed by Benjamin C. Wallace, Joseph M. Chadwick, and Fannin, shows that the Texas commander surrendered his men "subject to the disposition of the supreme government"; but Fannin apparently did not make this fact clear to his men, since survivors' accounts indicate that the Texans were led to believe they were surrendering honorably as prisoners of war and would be returned to the United States. This discrepancy is significant only in light of the ultimate fate of Fannin's command. Nevertheless, traditional Texan renditions inaccurately imply some insidious conspiracy in the surrender episode.

Craig H. Roell
NOTE: The Red Rovers of Courtland Alabama were not the only group of Alabama volunteers who participated in the War for Texas Independence. Huntsville contributed as many as seventy men in a company known as the Huntsville Volunteers, Montgomery sent the Alabama Greys, and Mobile provided the Mobile Greys. Arkansas, Georgia, Louisiana and Tennessee also sent volunteer companies. Individuals from many other states also offered their services.




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| '....."Boys, they are going to kill us---die with your faces to them, like men!"......two other young men, flourishing their caps over their heads, shouted at the top of their voices: "Hurra for Texas!" Can Texas cease to cherish the memory of those, whose dying words gave a pledge of their devotion to her cause?' Capt. Jack Shackelford, Survivor of the Massacre '......There was a general cry which pervaded the ranks: 'Remember the Alamo! Remember La Bahia!' These words electrified us all.' Thomas J. Rusk, Secretary of War |



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Good Morning, Foxhole

Another great post, and another great day..

Buuuuump!
Good Morning Neil.
What a way to start off the day! Thanks for passing on that news. Makes you feel good to know people think enough about our work to link to it.
Now Snippy can claim that she has World Famous BicycleSpankenTruppen. :-)
Santa Anna is just one in a long line of despots and dicatators who under estimated the "American Spirit".
Instead of striking terror into their hearts by being overtly harsh and cruel, he only managed to fil them with a resolve to strike back and fight harder.
Good Morning E.G.C .
Morning MeekoneGOP.
Lots of good info and links on your thread.
Good Morning Mayor.
Morning tomball. Thanks
Thanks for the bump Alamo-Girl.
Mornin Sam
You are quite welcome! La Bahia is one of my favorite places in Texas. "Remember the Alamo and La Bahia!"
Mornin' ! :^)
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The introduction in the mid-1970s of the USAF F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon put the then Eastern bloc fighter pilots at a distinct disadvantage. The deployment of the Su-27 Flanker and MiG-29 Fulcrum in the mid-1980s leveled the playing field. Designed as a high performance fighter with a fly-by-wire control system, and the ability to carry up to 10 AAMs, the highly maneuverable Su-27 is one of the most imposing fighters ever built. The first 'Flanker-A' prototypes flew on May 20, 1977. By the early 1980s, Sukhois T10-1 prototype, first flown in 1977, was the subject of much scrutiny by Western intelligence agencies, who dubbed it Flanker A. As the prototype evolved into the Su-27 or Flanker B production model, word of its potential as a fighter spread as well. 'Flanker-B' entered service in 1984.
The Su-27 airframe was manufactured using an integral configuration with the wing and fuselage forming a single aerodynamically lifted frame. Its longitudinal sections in the form of the wing airfoil ensure high aerodynamic efficiency and high lift coefficient while manoeuvring. To increase the aircraft manoeuvrability, it is designed statically unstable with artificial stability provided by the remote control system. The fighter is fitted with the analogue quad-redundant fly-by-wire system. The wings are mid-mounted and semi-delta with square tips. The wing has drooping leading edges and flaperons. The Leading-Edge Root Extension (LERX) extends downward and forward of the wing roots. The vertical tail is twin-finned with rudders. The horizontal tail is a differential tailplane and consists of two all-moving outer wings. The tail fins are swept-back, tapered with square tips, and mounted outboard of the engines. The flats are mid-mounted, swept-back, and tapered. The fuselage is rectangular from the air intakes to the tail. The undercarriage is a three-leg one with a forward retracted mono-wheel strut. The aircraft construction is made of aluminium alloys with the use of titanium. The fuel system consists of five tanks located under the fuselage, in the centre and outer wings. There are two turbojet engines in the fuselage. There are square, diagonally-cut air intakes mounted under the wings alongside the fuselage. The nose is pointed and there is a bubble canopy. The crew cockpit is fitted with the K-36DM Series 2 ejection seats.
The development of the Su-27 fighter plane was completed in the early 1980s, and the plane subsequently set more than 40 world records of altitude and take-off-speed. The original Su-27 is a very capable aircraft with an excellent design. Part of this excellence is that it has a lot of room to expand it's capabilities through the addition of extra avionics, fuel etc. The robust Su-27 platform has served as the basis for a number of improved variants for a diverse range of missions and users. It was the forerunner of an entire family of planes, including the Su-33 ship-based fighter, the Su-37 multi-mission plane and the Su-32FN two-seat specialised plane.
The Russian military normally restricts aircraft designations to a single type-number, to which is added a mission designation suffix. Thus, the Su-27UB is a combat Trainer, the Su-27IB is a fighter-bomber and the multi-role "Super-Flanker" is Su-27M. However, Sukhoi has allocated completely new numbers to many design variants.
The Su-27 is in service not only in Russia and other CIS countries but also in China and Vietnam. China also bought a license for the production of its own Su-27 fighters. Sukhoi in 1997 signed an estimated $180-million contract with Vietnam to supply six Su-27 (of which two Su-27SK and four Su-27UB). It supplied four of them in 1996 [and two were destroyed when the freighter carrying them crashed into an apartment block in Irkutsk].
The Russian Air Force is to equip one regiment with modernized Su-27 warplanes in 2004, and 20 planes of the type were sent to the factory in Komsomolsk-on-Amur for modernization during the year. The modernized Sy-27SM planes belong to the 4+ generation technique. The modernized pursuit planes will effectively attack targets in the air and on land. These planes differ from fifth-generation pursuit planes with their relatively high visibility and insufficient technical equipment.
The modernized Su-27 will not influence the program for construction of fifth-generation pursuit planes, and there is little chance that Russia will have fifth-generation pursuit planes of its own.
Specifications:
Country of Origin: CIS (formerly USSR)
Primary Role: Interceptor / air superiority
Similar Aircraft: F-15 Eagle, F-14 Tomcat, MiG-29 Fulcrum
Crew: one
In-Flight: Refueling No
Powerplant: Two Lyulka AL-31F engines with 12,550 kg thrust
User Countries: Belarus, CIS, People's Republic of China, Ukraine
Dimensions:
Length: 69 ft (21 m)
Span: 47 ft, 6 in (14.5 m)
Internal Fuel: 6350 kg
Drop Tanks: 1600kg for 126nm range
Payload: 6000kg
Maximum weight: 30,000 kg
Performance:
Maximum speed: Mach 2.35
Ceiling: 15240-18,000 m
Range:
1,500 km combat radius [typical]
1,800 km cruise radius
4,000 km maximum range
Avionics/Sensors:
Flash Dance radar, IRST and TV sensors, RWR, Ballistic bombsight
Armaments:
One 30 mm GSh-301 cannon
Up to 6,000 kg payload of missiles and bombs including
AA-10 (Alamo) air-to-air missiles
AA-11 (Archer) air-to-air missiles
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Yeah, yeah...We're the Far Right...we're gonna FReep Dem RATS from Power!!
We're the Far Right...we'll fulfill Founding Father's dreams...
Traitors we'll fight...RightWing's gonna make Dem Leftists scream!!
We're gonna FReep Rush and Hanni-vision...
Left shall fear our deadly precision...
Left's gonna find out what Truth is all about!!
America's Right...still gonna FReep RATS' SCUM from Power!!
We're the Far Right...we're gonna FReep Dem fools from Power!!
Ain't 'fraid to fight...Right's gonna WHUP Dem Lefties down!!
Left, say "GoodBye"...November's when yer goin' down!!
We're the Far Right...we're gonna scale Big Guv'ment down!!
Mudboy Slim (5/19/04)
On This Day In History
Birthdates which occurred on May 19:
1469 Giovanni della Robbia Italian sculptor
1611 Innocent XI [Benedetto Odescalchi] Italy, 240th Roman Catholic Pope (1676-89)
1616 Johann Jacob Froberger German singer/organist/composer
1795 Johns Hopkins philanthropist, founded Johns Hopkins University
1808 Samuel Jameson Gholson Brigadier General (Confederate Army), died in 1883
1812 Felix Kirk Zollicoffer Brigadier General (Confederate Army), died in 1862
1815 John Gross Barnard Brevet Major General (Union Army), died in 1882
1828 Adin Ballou Underwood Brevet Major General (Union volunteers)
1858 Roland Napoleon Bonaparte French officer/traveller (Surinam)
1859 Nellie Melba [Heal Mitchell] Australian soprano (Peach Melba)
1860 Victor E Orlando Italy's premier (1917-19)
1864 Carl Ethan Akeley US, naturalist, developed animal mount process
1890 Ho Chi Minh leader of Vietnam// Communist Thug (1946, 1969)
1913 Albert Hardy photographer
1915 Pol Pot dictator/mass murderer
1925 Malcolm X [Little] Omaha NE, assassinated leader of black muslims
1928 Anthony C B Chapman England, sports car builder/autoracer (Formula 1)
1929 Harvey Cox US theologist (Secular City)
1934 James Charles Lehrer Wichita KS, news anchor (McNeil-Lehrer Report)
1935 David Hartman Pawtucket RI, TV personality (Good Morning America)
1939 Nancy Kwan Hong Kong, actress (Flower Drum Song, World of Suzie Wong)
1940 Frank Lorenzo airline executive (Continental, Texas Air, Eastern)
1940 Joan Staley playmate (November 1958)
1941 Jimmy Hoffa Jr son of Jimmy Hoffa/Teamster union leader
1941 Nora Ephron New York NY, novelist/screenwriter/director (Sleepless in Seattle, You've Got Mail, Michael, Heartburn)
1945 Peter Townshend England, rock guitarist/vocalist/composer (The Who-Tommy)
1946 Phillip Rudd Melbourne Australia, rock drummer (AC/DC-Rock 'n Roll Damnation)
1947 Jerry Hyman Brooklyn NY, rock singer/trombonist (Blood Sweat & Tears)
1948 Grace Jones [Mendoza] Spanishtown Jamaica, singer/actress(?) (Vamp)
1948 Jean-Pierre Haignere France, cosmonaut (Soyuz TM-17)
1948 Tom Scott Los Angeles CA, saxophonist/bandleader (Pat Sajak Show)
1949 Dusty Hill rocker (ZZ Top)
1951 Joey Ramone [Jeffrey Hyman] Forest Hills NY, punk rocker (Ramones-Baby I Love You)
1955 Pierre J Thuot Groton CT, Lieutenant Commander USN/astronaut (STS 36, 49, 62)
1956 Steven Ford East Grand Rapids MI, actor (When Harry Met Sally, Young & Restless)/son of President Gerald Ford
1959 Nicole Brown Simpson Frankford Germany, Mrs OJ Simpson (murdered in 1994)
1968 Jeanne Basone Brubank CA, wrestler (Hollywood-GLOW)
1976 Kevin Garnett NBA forward/MVP (Minnesota Timberwolves)
Thanks Neil.
We've certainly seen it linked to from some interesting sites around the globe and it makes us very proud to know folks think enough of what we do to link to us on their site. It amazes us and encourages us to carry on.
Someday we must either win the lottery or figure out how to get paid for this. We do love the work though and thoughts like this and our love of our readers keeps us going. I consider the Foxhole Sam's "baby" and am happy to be a partner to him and the great mission of the Foxhole.
:-)
Good morning EGC, thanks for the reminder.
Excellent point Iris7. Good morning.
Mornin' Meek. Thanks to the link for your Goliad thread.
Good morning Mayor. Partly cloudy out my window and pleasant.
Good morning tomball.
Good morning feather.
Of course!
Mornin' Johnny.
Good morining Mud.
"I'M EXTREMELY ADEPT INEPT AT ALL MANNER OF OFFICE ORGANIZATION:"
I've used Microsoft Office. :-)
Thanks for the update and link hardhead.
Good morning, snippy...it really is nice here in Richmond, can't wait to get out fer some R&R at lunch...MUD
free dixie,sw
Mornin' ! My pleasure.
Did I ever mention I'm good at scrounging?
Morning Mud.
Proud Member of the Far Right. :-)
International bully the United States provoked an innocent Third World country by infiltrating irregular troops into Mexico in violation of international law. Peace activists were sent to Texas to witness for peace, but got no further than hotel rooms in New Orleans. Demonstrations in New York demanded "regime change" in the U.S. The New York Times reported on the front page that Mexican prisoners were being tortured by being fed American white bread and being denied tortillas. On page 38, the Times reported unverified allegations of a massacre at Goliad, but the reports were being discounted as administration propaganda. Besides, the Times opined, some overreaction by the Mexicans would be understandable in light of U.S. war crimes. < sarcasm/ >
Sheesh. I saw something interesting posted, but forget the source. It has been commonplace in the history of war for a nation to spread propaganda to demonize the enemy. But what does it say about a country that spreads propaganda to demonize itself???
Remember the Alamo! Remember La Bahia!
Morning Hardhead.
Almost 40 years of service, not bad for an AE.
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